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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Oh c'mon hate is everywhere. The word doesn't even have meaning. I don't care what he is. There was a bit of sarcasm in the post. To be honest, the fact that he is a black muslim, has absolutely no weight on my opinions of Barry.

Obama has a Muslim name, he is not Muslim.

He had attended a Muslim school as a child, he is not Muslim.

I have a Protestant name (Jeremy) Derived from a Hebrew name (Jeremiah) and I went to a Catholic school.

I am neither of those three.

Obama belongs to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, to the best of my knowledge, there has never been a mosque with the words "Church of Christ" in it

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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Oh c'mon hate is everywhere. The word doesn't even have meaning. I don't care what he is. There was a bit of sarcasm in the post. To be honest, the fact that he is a black muslim, has absolutely no weight on my opinions of Barry.
Jeff, I know that you don't hate ppls, but lets face it, there are A LOT of people who seriously believe this and hate him simply because of the fact... and that's WRONG!
Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Jeff, I know that you don't hate ppls, but lets face it, there are A LOT of people who seriously believe this and hate him simply because of the fact... and that's WRONG!
Is it?
You are showing the same type of intolerance that racists exhibit.
Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Krinkov
Obama has a Muslim name, he is not Muslim.

He had attended a Muslim school as a child, he is not Muslim.

I have a Protestant name (Jeremy) Derived from a Hebrew name (Jeremiah) and I went to a Catholic school.
So did I!
Which one did you go to?

Originally Posted by Krinkov
Obama belongs to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, to the best of my knowledge, there has never been a mosque with the words "Church of Christ" in it
At least the leaders of this church openly admit their anti whitey feelings.
Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Is it?
You are showing the same type of intolerance that racists exhibit.
So you feel it's ok to hate someone because of their religious beliefs?

I feel that is VERY wrong.
Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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"...John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith." - Senator Barack Hussein Obama (Muslim Faith? WTF? Freudian Slip!)

"Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather. The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering -- Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim."
Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
So you feel it's ok to hate someone because of their religious beliefs?

I feel that is VERY wrong.
You're missing my point.

Hating people that hate "******s" is just as wrong as those that hate "******s."

Fortunately, we have a certain amount of Freedom of speech.

The same freedom that allows me to walk down the street, yelling, "I hate ******s!" as loud as I want is the freedom that allows you to say, "I hate Paul!!"

A person's opinion that Barry would make a poor president because he's black is an ignorant opinion.

Like your opinion on fire arms, et al.
Old Sep 23, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
You're missing my point.

Hating people that hate "******s" is just as wrong as those that hate "******s."

Fortunately, we have a certain amount of Freedom of speech.

The same freedom that allows me to walk down the street, yelling, "I hate ******s!" as loud as I want is the freedom that allows you to say, "I hate Paul!!"

A person's opinion that Barry would make a poor president because he's black is an ignorant opinion.

Like your opinion on fire arms, et al.
So you have the right to speak what you want, yeah, i know that...

still doesn't make someone who hates someone because they are muslim "right". Just cause you can legally do something doesn't make it "right". I mean to me, why hate anyone cause of their religion. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Or why hate someone cause they are white/black/asian etc. Or because they have blue eyes, or black hair...

Sure, you can speak what you want, but It just shocking that ppl would willing hate people. It just intrigues me, hate...
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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my people have hundreds of years of persecution by the hands of muslims, but, we don't hate them (well, most don't. Some do of course).

I have people hating me cause I look muslim, they are hating muslims, and mistaking me for one. crazy... I just dont understand the whole premise.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Traxamillion
"...John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith." - Senator Barack Hussein Obama (Muslim Faith? WTF? Freudian Slip!)

"Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather. The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering -- Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim."
You really are an idiot.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Magish
You really are an idiot.
I'm beginning to think the same... cause all this time I hear some social conservatives "it's the Kenyan Dad"...now it's the step dad...

I think the few news groups taking a trip down there to find out is proof enough that it wasn't a madrasa.

and I'll ask again, do ppl hate muslims straight up cause they are muslims!?! why don't you guys just ****ing grow some ***** this time and just be prejudice if that's what you are, and say that you hate muslims. It makes it easier than saying "Oh, he's a muslim!" Cause seriously, that statement doesn't mean **** to me. first it's not true and second so what?

Crazy.... ****ing crazy the disconnect in this country.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I have people hating me cause I look muslim, they are hating muslims, and mistaking me for one. crazy... I just dont understand the whole premise.
i don't hate anyone, but seriously welcome to america buddy, that is not crazy at all.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
my people have hundreds of years of persecution by the hands of muslims, but, we don't hate them (well, most don't. Some do of course).

I have people hating me cause I look muslim, they are hating muslims, and mistaking me for one. crazy... I just dont understand the whole premise.
I understand what you're saying; I've been told on more than one occasion by a black person that they "hate me for what my ancestors did to their ancestors."

As far as hating someone because of their religious beliefs, it depends.

If those beliefs call for the oppression of women, call for the killing of those that hold contrary beliefs, killing people in the name of their god, etc. then yes, I hate them.

You cannot arrive at a compromise when the other party wants to kill you.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
If those beliefs call for the oppression of women, call for the killing of those that hold contrary beliefs, killing people in the name of their god, etc. then yes, I hate them.
So you hate all religions? Anyone can find all of these things in all of the major religious texts.



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