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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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So Europeans created the USA, so doesn't that mean that true Americans (when referring to the USA) are white?
Define created. If you mean built the infrastructure (railroads, ports, etc) then no, "whites" did not create the US.

FYI: Up until the 20th century, the Scots and Irish were another form of white on the hierarchical scale. Elitists considered the only true whites to be of Aryan decent (you know, like the Aryan nation).

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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Define created. If you mean built the infrastructure (railroads, ports, etc) then no, "whites" did not create the US.
Are you trying to separate the creation from the labor? Is that really the best you can do to say "whites" didn't create the nation?

Any "monkey" can perform labor, regardless of race. Labor builds, but ideas create.
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FYI: Up until the 20th century, the Scots and Irish were another form of white on the hierarchical scale. Elitists considered the only true whites to be of Aryan decent (you know, like the Aryan nation).
Yep, and Hitler was a dumb m-f'er. The term "white" includes Russian, Polish, Italian, Jewish, and "european in general."

Just like the other races, whites are a very diverse group. The situation and ideas that resulted in the creation of the U.S. are mostly European, obviously. Other races had very little to do with the causes that led to independence and the value system that created our constitution.
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And if you one of those mutherfockers, then you get a big
For my skin color, my good looks, or what?

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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Are you trying to separate the creation from the labor? Is that really the best you can do to say "whites" didn't create the nation?

Any "monkey" can perform labor, regardless of race. Labor builds, but ideas create.

And some of the biggest advances in our society and culture have come from non-white laborers-turned-ideapeople...so do they not count? (Eli Whitney, of course; George Washington Carver; Dr. Charles Drew; Lewis Latimer, Garret Morgan, Dr. Severo Ochoa; etc...)


Our country may have been FOUNDED by whites, but it was (and is being) created by everyone who lives here. I mean...among those people listed, they invented traffic lights, cotton gins, blood banks, descovered RNA...all things that make our country run well. You can't create a auto-centric society like ours without traffic lights.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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And some of the biggest advances in our society and culture have come from non-white laborers-turned-ideapeople...so do they not count? (Eli Whitney, of course; George Washington Carver; Dr. Charles Drew; Lewis Latimer, Garret Morgan, Dr. Severo Ochoa; etc...)
Our country may have been FOUNDED by whites, but it was (and is being) created by everyone who lives here. I mean...among those people listed, they invented traffic lights, cotton gins, blood banks, descovered RNA...all things that make our country run well. You can't create a auto-centric society like ours without traffic lights.
Yep, all can (and many do) succeed under the system and the constitution that resulted from modern thinking. I think it's obvious that people of different cultures (values, religion, etc) are inheriting this system via both legal and illegal immigration, and that's where it gets interesting. Even large companies accept the fact that in acquisitions of other firms, you are acquiring PEOPLE, and those people must have compatible culture so they can be assimilated... so I digress but do you see my point? I think we'll become more like the world than what the founders intended...

Parallel to your point, the west created China, right? Most of their modern infrastructure, education, and technology were bought, traded, and stolen from the west. Heck, that goes for most of the developed world.

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