Half of the US thinks Iraq had WMD
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
most of whom have never been in the same hemisphere as Iraq, about weather they THOUGHT Iraq had WMDs before we invaded.
Originally Posted by kyle_RS
america was not the only culprit (SPL?)?theres alot of guilty people, its just a matter of who does anything to stop it. with good intentions or bad the war was not in vain
I don't like big business owners that are power hungry and will do anything to get more money/power. To me those people aren't americans.
kurds, turks whatever you know what i was talkin about.
In every war thats ever been fought, there were evil people that put on a perfect face. the thing about war is the outcome. did it do any good? to me this war in iraq achieved something that the iraqi's have been dreaming of for decades freedom. The chance to be free shouldn't be withheld from anyone.
problem is when you are soo afraid of your own government that the you won't fight against it. you need someone to help you. luckly america (with wrong motives or right) will come to aid if its needed! even if this war was all about giving bush more money for his oil company's or whatever, I can pretty much promise you that the majority of iraqi's are greatfull for the US helping their nation.
if i'm wrong i'll find out soon enough and i'll come back on here and apologize
i'm sorry about the terrible grammer and sentence stucture
I don't like big business owners that are power hungry and will do anything to get more money/power. To me those people aren't americans.
kurds, turks whatever you know what i was talkin about.
In every war thats ever been fought, there were evil people that put on a perfect face. the thing about war is the outcome. did it do any good? to me this war in iraq achieved something that the iraqi's have been dreaming of for decades freedom. The chance to be free shouldn't be withheld from anyone.
problem is when you are soo afraid of your own government that the you won't fight against it. you need someone to help you. luckly america (with wrong motives or right) will come to aid if its needed! even if this war was all about giving bush more money for his oil company's or whatever, I can pretty much promise you that the majority of iraqi's are greatfull for the US helping their nation.
if i'm wrong i'll find out soon enough and i'll come back on here and apologize
i'm sorry about the terrible grammer and sentence stucture
Have you seen it? I sure as hell havent, i still see a society in the clutches of fear and terror.. Just a different brand of fear and terror from the years of old...
And how exactly are you able to promise anyone the majority of iraqi thoughts, feelings, and emotions?
Dont bite off more then you can chew man.
and **** grammar and syntax.. this it an inet forum, not the court room.
and for the record certain individuals bear more of the blame and brunt of the course of actions then others.
And i place that firmly on the shoulders of the administration, and not the intelligence community (all tho i am sure they had a role to play). I say this simply because all indiciations that i have seen lead me to the assumption that the OSP (office for special plans) was setup as a choke point to choke off contradicting intelligence from hitting the administration. A shield against the truth of sorts..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans
just google for office of special plans.. plenty of info out there.. its up to you to research and come to your own conclusions..
And i place that firmly on the shoulders of the administration, and not the intelligence community (all tho i am sure they had a role to play). I say this simply because all indiciations that i have seen lead me to the assumption that the OSP (office for special plans) was setup as a choke point to choke off contradicting intelligence from hitting the administration. A shield against the truth of sorts..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans
just google for office of special plans.. plenty of info out there.. its up to you to research and come to your own conclusions..
Originally Posted by 06WRX4ME
Know how I know that Iraq had WMD?
Because back in Desert Storm we gave them to Iraq.
Also, one of Saddam's cousins is nicknamed Chemical Ali. How do you get the nickname of "Chemical" for using serin gas on your own people if you do not have WMD?
Because back in Desert Storm we gave them to Iraq.
Also, one of Saddam's cousins is nicknamed Chemical Ali. How do you get the nickname of "Chemical" for using serin gas on your own people if you do not have WMD?
hahaha the stupid is strong with this one...
Soooo a nickname is all it takes now? That is the burden for our intelligence community?
So how does "curve ball' work out for you (you prob dont even have a clue as to what that reference means do you?)?
No one is questioning if Iraq HAD WMD's at one point. We know they did, like you said.. we sold them to the iraqis so they could use them against Iran back in the day.
What we are debating is the PRETENSE USED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ. WHich by all indiciations apears to be completely FALSE and FABRICATED.
MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
If we were to invade every country with a current WMD stockpile there wouldnt be much of the world left....
What is funny is the amount of WMD's we went on record as saying that iraq had in its possesion...
well what is in the past is in the past..
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Originally Posted by Salty
Why do you have to be such an ******* all the time. It has gotten old.
He's just trying to blend in. Thanks for reminding me why I don't bother with this forum anymore.
Originally Posted by Salty
Why do you have to be such an ******* all the time. It has gotten old.
im sorry do you have something to contribute to what i said? or are you just going to sit that and cry about things some more?
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My favorite part about the whole thing is how they just twisted the reasons for doing it once the WMD reason wasn't realiable.
***Oh, well we were going to liberate and free Iraqis now! That was our reason all along.*** *wink* *wink*
/sarcasm
Isn't it against the rules to change the reason for going to WAR in the middle of said war?
/sarcasm
***Oh, well we were going to liberate and free Iraqis now! That was our reason all along.*** *wink* *wink*
/sarcasm
Isn't it against the rules to change the reason for going to WAR in the middle of said war?
/sarcasm
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
What we are debating is the PRETENSE USED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ. WHich by all indiciations apears to be completely FALSE and FABRICATED.
MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
If we were to invade every country with a current WMD stockpile there wouldnt be much of the world left....
What is funny is the amount of WMD's we went on record as saying that iraq had in its possesion...
well what is in the past is in the past..
MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
If we were to invade every country with a current WMD stockpile there wouldnt be much of the world left....
What is funny is the amount of WMD's we went on record as saying that iraq had in its possesion...
well what is in the past is in the past..
i couldn't agree more with you, it doesn't matter anymore if iraq did or didn't have them, truthfully the only thing that they have found so far, was dozens of 55 gallon containers full of chemicals for WMD's but have yet to actually find any assembled WMD's
point is now america has a mess of a war in a country with the newly ellected gov. (that are a bunch of p*ssy's in my mind) and we need to go about it the right way!
President Bush only has two more years in office (God willing we'll be leaving iraq by then) what american's should be worried about is who is going to take office and lead our troops the right way!
one major thing i hate is how alot of american's don't seem to be looking toward the future, i know that we learn from out mistakes from our past true but shouldn't the main focus be on the next leadership of our country and how they are going to fix everything?
just a question.
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
hahaha the stupid is strong with this one...
Soooo a nickname is all it takes now? That is the burden for our intelligence community?
So how does "curve ball' work out for you (you prob dont even have a clue as to what that reference means do you?)?
No one is questioning if Iraq HAD WMD's at one point. We know they did, like you said.. we sold them to the iraqis so they could use them against Iran back in the day.
What we are debating is the PRETENSE USED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ. WHich by all indiciations apears to be completely FALSE and FABRICATED.
MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
If we were to invade every country with a current WMD stockpile there wouldnt be much of the world left....
What is funny is the amount of WMD's we went on record as saying that iraq had in its possesion...
well what is in the past is in the past..
Soooo a nickname is all it takes now? That is the burden for our intelligence community?
So how does "curve ball' work out for you (you prob dont even have a clue as to what that reference means do you?)?
No one is questioning if Iraq HAD WMD's at one point. We know they did, like you said.. we sold them to the iraqis so they could use them against Iran back in the day.
What we are debating is the PRETENSE USED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ. WHich by all indiciations apears to be completely FALSE and FABRICATED.
MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
If we were to invade every country with a current WMD stockpile there wouldnt be much of the world left....
What is funny is the amount of WMD's we went on record as saying that iraq had in its possesion...
well what is in the past is in the past..
Maybe you should read and watch some of the documentaries about Iraq and the present state of its government and military. It shows you a lot about how they hid there weapons and used them all up before we could actually find them.
Or go to Iraq on a vacation like I did and you will learn plenty that they wont put in the news.
Oh, and for the record I completely disagree with us being over there and think that we need to pull out. If we did pull out now though it would show us as being weak to them so its a lose lose situation.
Last edited by 06WRX4ME; Aug 9, 2006 at 09:21 AM.
Originally Posted by 06WRX4ME
They did have WMD's. My time there I learned alot about the stuff going on there. I think that us going there for that reason was wrong because they didnt have a big stockpile, that we found.
Maybe you should read and watch some of the documentaries about Iraq and the present state of its government and military. It shows you a lot about how they hid there weapons and used them all up before we could actually find them.
Or go to Iraq on a vacation like I did and you will learn plenty that they wont put in the news.
Oh, and for the record I completely disagree with us being over there and think that we need to pull out. If we did pull out now though it would show us as being weak to them so its a lose lose situation.
Maybe you should read and watch some of the documentaries about Iraq and the present state of its government and military. It shows you a lot about how they hid there weapons and used them all up before we could actually find them.
Or go to Iraq on a vacation like I did and you will learn plenty that they wont put in the news.
Oh, and for the record I completely disagree with us being over there and think that we need to pull out. If we did pull out now though it would show us as being weak to them so its a lose lose situation.
Soo tell me about this time you spent with the iraq people...
Pulling out is absolutelyt eh worst ****ing thing we can do.....
We already commited ourselves now it is time to finish the ****ing job.. this duck and hide **** is ****ing ***** ****. We ****ed up in going over there and now there is no easy way out of it. Pulling troops out is bull**** and will only serve to bite us in the *** in the long run. (havent we learned yet?)
Originally Posted by WRX409
The U.S. shouldn't be in Iraq it is a big mistake.
The U.S. should just mind it's own business
and not mettle in other peoples' affairs.
The U.S. should just mind it's own business
and not mettle in other peoples' affairs.
To late now, if you leave it will be even worse for us in the short term, mid term, and long term. We have to see it thru we have long passed the point of no return.
Minding your own buisness gets you blinded sided in a world where everone wants what everyone else has.
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