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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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Declaration of Independence

I had to pass a college level test on the Constitutional principles as part of getting my teaching credentials. These words really struck me.
" But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Maybe Psoper is getting to me but I think it might be about that time.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Wow 2 quotes of the Declaration of Independence on I-club in a couple of days.
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I had to pass a college level test on the Constitutional principles as part of getting my teaching credentials. These words really struck me.
" But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Maybe Psoper is getting to me but I think it might be about that time.
Let me start by saying you are a ****ing idiot. You are speaking heresy if you are talking about the U.S.A. I hope you get locked up under the patriot act... well that or the ATF pays you a visit when you actually try.

You're going to be a teacher? Truly a sad day.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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There are really some jack boot ***** hiding in the shadows of I-club aren't there? He's not issuing a call to arms, hes voicing a dissenting opinion and last time I checked that was ok. No wonder the liberals on this forum treat the conservatives like a bunch of idiots.
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I think HellaDumb just likes the attention he gets...

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Let me start by saying you are a ****ing idiot. You are speaking heresy if you are talking about the U.S.A. I hope you get locked up under the patriot act... well that or the ATF pays you a visit when you actually try.
but this is a little overboard, even for a conservative. i thought the conservative view was generally for smaller, cheaper less-instrusive government (though to be fair i'm not sure that's ever been possible)

I don't think the situation in the US has quite become what it was at the time of the Declaration. but little by little, year after year our freedoms are diminished, government (and our taxes) grow. eventually the time will come
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I'm a Libertarian/Constitutionalist and I firmly believe that the tree of Liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of Tyrants & Patriots. It helps to keep the elected officials on their toes.

Unfortunately, merely discussing such activities in such a public forum could be seen as conspiracy to commit treason.
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Originally Posted by Seranin
I think HellaDumb just likes the attention he gets...


but this is a little overboard, even for a conservative. i thought the conservative view was generally for smaller, cheaper less-instrusive government (though to be fair i'm not sure that's ever been possible)

I don't think the situation in the US has quite become what it was at the time of the Declaration. but little by little, year after year our freedoms are diminished, government (and our taxes) grow. eventually the time will come
LOOK, you deserve some name calling, but I'll refrain (at this time). What the hell do you think it means to throw off the government? I don't care if you are doing it with words, guns, or with malicious chia pets.... any of these will cause my size 12 to impact your groin with such force that it will look like raw sausage (pardon the pun).

Originally Posted by ftnssn
There are really some jack boot ***** hiding in the shadows of I-club aren't there? He's not issuing a call to arms, hes voicing a dissenting opinion and last time I checked that was ok. No wonder the liberals on this forum treat the conservatives like a bunch of idiots.
"It's time to throw off the government" means what to you? I'm nominating you at this time for Liberal idiot of the week... I think you'll win too.

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take that.
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lol. helladumb, you are the worst debater ever. Who the hell starts off a rebuttal with "first of all, you are a ******* idiot".
haha, jesus.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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I think Helladumb is actually a fictional character. Somebody is trolling us. Nobody is that stupid in real life.
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lol. helladumb, you are the worst debater ever. Who the hell starts off a rebuttal with "first of all, you are a ******* idiot".
haha, jesus.
As much as it pains me, I'm with Connie on this one.

Hella, are you saying that it's never ok to overthrow the gov't? That's why the 2nd Amendment was added to the BOR.
I'm really surprised the hippies never did it during the 60's or 70's. Musta been all the weed they smoked.
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damn, serious hostilities in here. . . I'd like to speak for the moderate conservatives in saying, I'm not with him.
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I think Helladumb is actually a fictional character. Somebody is trolling us. Nobody is that stupid in real life.
LOL, werd.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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You quoted two different people(myself included) and then responded to things they didn't say. You need to go back and refresh yourself on your countries history. The sad part is you're probably one of those people who waves the flag violently on the 4th of July but have no clue about all the things that led to that event. So just keep reading up on Mein Kampf and have a nice day.
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Originally Posted by jdepould
damn, serious hostilities in here. . . I'd like to speak for the moderate conservatives in saying, I'm not with him.
He was talking about overthrowing our current U.S. government.... so that doesn't bother you???????

You, I, and the rest of the conservatives are letting the country get hijacked and ruined by liberals and the freaky fringe.

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