Bush submits plan to log 58million acres (size of wyoming)
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Originally Posted by FUNKED1
Strengthens public participation in developing high priority forest health projects;
Reduces the complexity of environmental analysis allowing federal land agencies to use the best science available to actively manage land under their protection....
The Need for Common-Sense Forest Legislation
Catastrophic fires, particularly those experienced in California, Arizona, Colorado, Montana and Oregon over the past two years, burn hotter and faster than most ordinary fires.
Visibility and air quality are reduced, threatening even the health of many who do not live near the fires.
The habitat for endangered species and other wildlife is destroyed.
Federal forests and rangelands also face threats from the spread of invasive species and insect attacks.
In the past two years alone, 147,049 fires burned nearly 11 million acres
2002: 88,458 fires burned roughly 7 million acres and caused the deaths of 23 firefighters; ......
Reduces the complexity of environmental analysis allowing federal land agencies to use the best science available to actively manage land under their protection....
The Need for Common-Sense Forest Legislation
Catastrophic fires, particularly those experienced in California, Arizona, Colorado, Montana and Oregon over the past two years, burn hotter and faster than most ordinary fires.
Visibility and air quality are reduced, threatening even the health of many who do not live near the fires.
The habitat for endangered species and other wildlife is destroyed.
Federal forests and rangelands also face threats from the spread of invasive species and insect attacks.
In the past two years alone, 147,049 fires burned nearly 11 million acres
2002: 88,458 fires burned roughly 7 million acres and caused the deaths of 23 firefighters; ......
"Best Science" and "Common Sense" are not the sort of things that I'd trust legislators or this administration to implement on any subject, it all sounds like a load of BS to me.
No mention of who's going to pay for it, but I can tell you who's going to profit- timber companies, not the taxpayers who own the forest.
Sensible forest management is one thing, and it deserves funding and support. Clearcutting old growth is quite another matter though, and I fully expect that this is going to open the door more for the latter than any of us probably want.
If we cut down trees then they cant burn....
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Picture this:
You and your son decide to take a backpacking trip for a long weekend.
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You and your son decide to take a backpacking trip for a long weekend.
How would you feel then?
I have no problem if we utilize the resource effectively... i.e. thinning versus clear-cutting.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
... i.e. thinning versus clear-cutting.
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But thinning costs more, so timber companies don't profit as much and guess what, they don't do it anymore! Take a look around, way too much of our forests are getting clearcut, all the time
Here's nature at work: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5370554
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Well, I'd bet this plan is for thinning, not clear-cutting, in actuality.
Here's nature at work: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5370554
Here's nature at work: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5370554
Wrong, and wrong,
The plan is to open roadless areas to road building and timber extraction there are not going to be any provisions directing forest managers on the specifics of timber sales, there is sure to be a LOT of clear-cutting going on for just the reason I mentioned before.
And Carson City and Three Points are populated, well travelled areas, no new roads or tree cutting would have had any significant impact on these fires whatsoever. So while pointing out it's nature at work, you are missing the point that wildfires still burn in places where there isn't any viable timber.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Well, I'd bet this plan is for thinning, not clear-cutting, in actuality.
Here's nature at work: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5370554
Here's nature at work: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5370554
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Officials said the blaze was started by a person before dawn Wednesday near a waterfall on a creek popular with local youths, and authorities were looking for a particular 1978 Dodge truck. “It’s absolute devastation up there,” Sheriff Ken Furlong said.
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