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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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He probably wont take it just to **** you off
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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HD I don't think you've ever put out an idea as long as I've been reading your postings.

Lots of parroted propaganda, lots of holier than thou self-righteous hating, and more than enough left-bashing, but no real ideas whatsoever.

I'll let you have the last word...
So beyond the personal attack, you think what Bush did regarding prevailing wages was a bad idea(why??)? I think what Bush did was good, because a free labor market will result in lower labor costs to rebuild.

I worked for 7 years in construction (3 as a licensed contractor) in the state of California. What relevant experience do you have?
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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The problem is that people WILL be traveling from all over to fill these jobs, and the majority of medium skilled laborers will be illegals from Mexico.... this happens whether you pay the prevailing wage or not.
Why pay illegals the prevailing wage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
You dont need to pay illegals "prevailing wages" as illegals are paid under the table.

Also:

"The Davis-Bacon law requires federal contractors to pay workers at least the prevailing wages in the area where the work is conducted. It applies to federally funded construction projects such as highways and bridges. "

Bush's chronies cant be having any of that. After all, why should they pay decent wages if it cuts into their profit margin???

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
You dont need to pay illegals "prevailing wages" as illegals are paid under the table.

Also:

"The Davis-Bacon law requires federal contractors to pay workers at least the prevailing wages in the area where the work is conducted. It applies to federally funded construction projects such as highways and bridges. "

Bush's chronies cant be having any of that. After all, why should they pay decent wages if it cuts into their profit margin???
So I'm certainly no expert on how illegals are able to work the system, but don't you see any upside to Bush's actions? From your response, I assume you are pro-union (anti-free market) or just have a blanket-hatred for anything Bush (?).

Why would you pay medium skilled painters, for example, $40 per hour (prevailing organized labor wage) when you have a supply of decent painters willing to work for $9?
This is not the corner case, but the type of example that happens on a large scale.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Alright, then you tell me how he works an 8-5 job on payroll when he's admitted to being here illegally (no greencard, etc)

Cause he and the company he is working for are commiting fraud.

simple as that he can work for as long as he gets caught.. not rocket science, nor does it make it legit in any way. If you were half the flag waving citizen you pretend to be you would have called the authorities and reported his ***.

What you cant live up to your own ideas and words?

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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I worked for 7 years in construction (3 as a licensed contractor) in the state of California. What relevant experience do you have?

That explains a **** ton.. must have been alot of 4x8's that fell on your head, and **** tons of fumes.
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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If you were half the flag waving citizen you pretend to be you would have called the authorities and reported his ***.
Our government wants them here for the cheap labor, and citizens aren't even urged by our government to turn illegals in. Heck, I don't blame him since our policies encourage folks from South of the border to come here.

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That explains a **** ton.. must have been alot of 4x8's that fell on your head, and **** tons of fumes.
4x8s, no.
Fumes, yes
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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wrong our economy encourages folks to come here illegally.

And if you were half the man you try and make your self out to be you would turn him in, on the principles you so lovingly share with us.
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Fumes, yes
*shakes head*
You're just fueling their fire, man.
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
blanket-hatred for anything Bush (?).

That is where Republican hard-liners have it ***-backwards. People who voice their disapproval are not "anti-Bush" as much as they are pro-fairness, pro-equality, and, yes, pro-American.

If you cant understand how granting no-bid contracts to your connections and then disbanding laws that ensure fair pay are potentially unfair, then there is no point carrying on a discussion with you regarding this matter.

Have a nice day

Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
That is where Republican hard-liners have it ***-backwards. People who voice their disapproval are not "anti-Bush" as much as they are pro-fairness, pro-equality, and, yes, pro-American.

If you cant understand how granting no-bid contracts to your connections and then disbanding laws that ensure fair pay are potentially unfair, then there is no point carrying on a discussion with you regarding this matter.

Have a nice day

Obviously, you are inflicted with the mental disorder called liberalism. So if you are against Bush you are for fairness, equality, and America? That's the biggest crock of bull I think I've ever read!!! Good one!

So you actually think that act creates fair pay more than 70 years after it was created? Again, you have blinders on, and clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
wrong our economy encourages folks to come here illegally.

And if you were half the man you try and make your self out to be you would turn him in, on the principles you so lovingly share with us.
There's a big difference between complaining about liberal policies and lax enforcement of immigration laws, and turning in violators (when cops themselves won't even do it).
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
That is where Republican hard-liners have it ***-backwards. People who voice their disapproval are not "anti-Bush" as much as they are pro-fairness, pro-equality, and, yes, pro-American.

If you cant understand how granting no-bid contracts to your connections and then disbanding laws that ensure fair pay are potentially unfair, then there is no point carrying on a discussion with you regarding this matter.

Have a nice day

+1

Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
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I see right through the bush-hating antics. Some haters won't even stop to consider that what Bush has done is good for our economy, and that it is even remotely possible that a free labor market will be fair. No, let's just assume that if anyone Bush knows stands to profit from disaster, whether man-made or "act of God," must be unfair and boarderline criminal!

So just go with that line of thinking.... that's the same naieve and jaded view that most Americans despise, and just what you need to keep doing to ensure the next Democrat Presidential Candidate will return to their day job after the election.

Keep up the good work!

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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My God... you argue like John Kerry. Way to deviate every single thread into some random *** argument that has no linear cohesiveness.

Looking critically into policy decisions is not "anti-Bush". That's great if Bush has indeed done some good things for our economy; it has no relevance to the discussion at hand.

Again...
Originally Posted by dub2w
If you cant understand how granting no-bid contracts to your connections and then disbanding laws that ensure fair pay are potentially unfair, then there is no point carrying on a discussion with you...



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