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Originally Posted by MVWRX
Give me proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves EVER, and I'll conceed.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
Good points. And in a way you're right about the abilities of the white people at the time...but they were racist because of the way they thought about the native people's they encountered. They thought of them as little children who neede the white man's help...racist.
Survival of the fittest.
That's why they're our lawyers, accountants, and doctors
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MV, I'm not 100% sure why there is not a whole lot of proof. I'm gonna take a guess that it's partly due to a lack of recorded history past the last 3-4 thousand years. But I think it's almost moronic to think that there was no slavery or and brutality between races before that.
As for your asking of proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves. How about the Egyptians when they had the Middle Eastern Jews enslaved for numerous years. (Where the story of Moses comes from.)
Originally Posted by HellaDumb
See, this is the kind of anti-white bigotry that is allowed to run rampant here! From slavery, to the conquest of Indians, to foreign **** crimes?
Jews are white you moron, and they do just fine in the U.S. without handouts.
Jews are white you moron, and they do just fine in the U.S. without handouts.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
^^I DID read that...what I'm saying is none of you have proof. When did blacks find a bunch of whites and kill them all, make them slaves, take over their land. Or when did South American natives introduce disease to a whole continent of whites...even before the last 1000-2000 years.
Give me proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves EVER, and I'll conceed. There's a reason 'colonialism' was new in the last 1000 or so years...because before then, there wasn't the ability to jump around the world and brutalize people of other races. So if you conceed that in the last milenium that whites have done the most heinous racist things, then you are neccesarily admitting that over all of history whites are the #1 perpetrators of racism. It's a fact...denying it leads to more racism.
Give me proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves EVER, and I'll conceed. There's a reason 'colonialism' was new in the last 1000 or so years...because before then, there wasn't the ability to jump around the world and brutalize people of other races. So if you conceed that in the last milenium that whites have done the most heinous racist things, then you are neccesarily admitting that over all of history whites are the #1 perpetrators of racism. It's a fact...denying it leads to more racism.
As for your asking of proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves. How about the Egyptians when they had the Middle Eastern Jews enslaved for numerous years. (Where the story of Moses comes from.)
Originally Posted by jvick125
Survival of the fittest.
That's why they're our lawyers, accountants, and doctors.
MV, I'm not 100% sure why there is not a whole lot of proof. I'm gonna take a guess that it's partly due to a lack of recorded history past the last 3-4 thousand years. But I think it's almost moronic to think that there was no slavery or and brutality between races before that.
That's why they're our lawyers, accountants, and doctors
.MV, I'm not 100% sure why there is not a whole lot of proof. I'm gonna take a guess that it's partly due to a lack of recorded history past the last 3-4 thousand years. But I think it's almost moronic to think that there was no slavery or and brutality between races before that.
Originally Posted by jvick125
As for your asking of proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves. How about the Egyptians when they had the Middle Eastern Jews enslaved for numerous years. (Where the story of Moses comes from.)
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
Wow lojasmo, another bible story based on truth. I thought those two were oxymorons?
Sure, I admit that some of the stories in the bible were loosely based on fact.
Still not much to base one's worldview upon, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Your logic is right along the lines of "the man blew up the dikes" and "bush hates black people." You are obviosly the one who hates white people and think they have some debt to pay.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
You don't have to hate white people to understand that they have, historically, been a far greater oppressive force than any other race.
I'm sure you'd much rather live in a society without such influence such a this? http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/in...rtner=homepage
Just on the surface of this thread, you've seen charitable influence from whites being called "racist," so in that itself you can see one act can be spun two ways. I'm sure somebody has some anti-white crack regarding the 50B we're sending Africa for AIDS... who is going to start?
Western culture is THE MOST CHARITABLE CULTURE ON THE PLANET... and I'll ask you as well, what other culture would you rather scale to the influence that western "white" culture has? I'll take a legacy with a few hickups any day over any other choices I know of.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
I can't really blame you for having such an opinion, since our society puts such a negative spin on "white" or "western" hitorical influence. The more you look at both sides of every issue, you can make an informed opinion, and realize that you were wrong.
Just on the surface of this thread, you've seen charitable influence from whites being called "racist,"
so in that itself you can see one act can be spun two ways. I'm sure somebody has some anti-white crack regarding the 50B we're sending Africa for AIDS... who is going to start?
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Originally Posted by rolling stone article
Dubbed the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), the ambitious agenda provided the administration with some much-needed PR at the very moment it was preparing to defy international will by invading Iraq. But from the start, Bush has failed to deliver on the funding he promised -- and what little money he has provided is being used to promote a right-wing agenda that undercuts international efforts and puts millions of people in AIDS-ravaged countries at greater risk of infection and death.
Thanks to the president's foot-dragging, his "emergency plan" took its sweet time getting going. Bush requested only $2 billion for PEPFAR in its first year -- a billion less than one would expect. Then, when Congress decided to approve $400 million more than the president asked for, Bush unsuccessfully fought to block the increase. By the time the first relief funds arrived in Africa, nearly a year and a half had passed since the president announced his plan -- a costly delay in fighting an epidemic that claims 8,500 lives every day.
Thanks to the president's foot-dragging, his "emergency plan" took its sweet time getting going. Bush requested only $2 billion for PEPFAR in its first year -- a billion less than one would expect. Then, when Congress decided to approve $400 million more than the president asked for, Bush unsuccessfully fought to block the increase. By the time the first relief funds arrived in Africa, nearly a year and a half had passed since the president announced his plan -- a costly delay in fighting an epidemic that claims 8,500 lives every day.
Western culture is THE MOST CHARITABLE CULTURE ON THE PLANET... and I'll ask you as well, what other culture would you rather scale to the influence that western "white" culture has? I'll take a legacy with a few hickups any day over any other choices I know of.
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Originally Posted by jvick125
Who would you say has done more?
I think at least it has been extremely influencial on MANY different societies.
I think at least it has been extremely influencial on MANY different societies.
But when I said "gibberish" I was referring to the syntax of the quoted poster.
Originally Posted by lojasmo
Well, historically, Greece, I suppose.
But when I said "gibberish" I was referring to the syntax of the quoted poster.
But when I said "gibberish" I was referring to the syntax of the quoted poster.
Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Dre, you need to STFU. I'm probabably less racist than you, and probably more race-conscious... **** I could testify as a subject expert on the shiz. I even did some of my masters level work on racism and diversity and how modern diversity programs cause conflict in organizations.
Heck, I'm all for preserving old-fashioned American culture, and I married an Asian to get it! Yeah, some real racist I am!!!
My post does not in any way justify how screwed up white racist groups are, but points out the irony in that whites are the least racist group on the planet while taking **** from everybody.
What's even more ironic is that you attack me for my views when clearly the people in post 1 (and the author) are the ones with the bigoted views! That makes me wonder wtf your twisted motiviations or views are????? Is it really a reach to say you are saying that because I'm white?
Heck, I'm all for preserving old-fashioned American culture, and I married an Asian to get it! Yeah, some real racist I am!!!
My post does not in any way justify how screwed up white racist groups are, but points out the irony in that whites are the least racist group on the planet while taking **** from everybody.
What's even more ironic is that you attack me for my views when clearly the people in post 1 (and the author) are the ones with the bigoted views! That makes me wonder wtf your twisted motiviations or views are????? Is it really a reach to say you are saying that because I'm white
?You keep studying your racism in school, and i will continue to observe it both in this country and else where (mainly south america). As any good scientist knows there is a large gap between theory and practice...
And the simple fact that you think ANY RACIAL GROUP is ANY LESS RACIST OR SELF CENTERED only proves my ****ing point you douchebag. You are bigoted, you just ****ing admited it in that thar post...
keep up the good work, and if you are going to try to come out of the mongaloid persona you have built for yourself here at least do so in a manner where you dont furhtur prove your nym to be true..
mmmkay thanks..
PS im half white by blood all white by skin.. so EADIA
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Originally Posted by jvick125
How has Greece been more charitable?
As far as "charitable" I think helladumb's point is undocumented and unsubstantiated. When some actual numbers are cited, that's when I'll bother to do any research.
Originally Posted by case1
Ok, whites making sacrifices......don't you think whites kinda owe it to the people they have massacred, displaced, enslaved, etc.......
for that matter, every race owes it to the people they have wronged.
As for interracial marriage, to each their own....if you're against it, keep it to yourself, don't preach to others about your beliefs<------not preaching to Helladumb, just my opinion to the rest of the world.
for that matter, every race owes it to the people they have wronged.
As for interracial marriage, to each their own....if you're against it, keep it to yourself, don't preach to others about your beliefs<------not preaching to Helladumb, just my opinion to the rest of the world.
**** owing anyone ****, its all about JUSTICE, EQUALITY, HONOR, and the like...
I dont owe **** to anyone other then what i have signed up for. Same goes for karma, if i did anyone wrong then by all means that is on my head and not the head of what ever group i can be or am associated with (unless they joined via conspiracy or action).
Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Most ruthless? I beg to differ. I'd suggest that most areas ruled under colonialism benefitted under such rule/.
once again you applying your own social bias to the problem...