Most ruthless? I beg to differ. I'd suggest that most areas ruled under colonialism benefitted under such rule/.

Maybe you are trying to explain why "whites" value system, ideals, and technology rule the world? Which non-white civilization would you like to scale to run the world?

 

Yeah, but the average white and black folk think jews are white.

 

^^doesn't make em white though....

 

The average person is an idiot.

 

Granted this is true but don't over look the great Asian countries too. The Chinese did this several times to the Mongolians and the Japanese later did it to them. Had other areas of the world been as progressed as the Renaissance era Europeans had been they'd have probably done the same thing. As bad as it sounds it's human nature to view things from a detached, ethnocentric point of veiw when dealing with a foreign culture. Had the tribes of Africa made a successful navy and attempted a conquest of England would they have granted the United Kingdom any sympathy?

 

Of course other civ's have been more ruthless in massacres than white civ's.....actually i'd say all races are pretty equal in brutality, its not about races really just the nature of man.....its just that for the last 500-1000yrs it has been mostly the white race that has colonized and brutalized other races....

 

And 500 years in the whole scheme of mankind is a drop in the bucket. Who knows what might happen in the next 1000 to 10000 years. I think the Mexicans will probably slowly take over every single contentient.

 

First of all, there will never be any more colonization on a large especially world wide scale, it just won't happen, as far as Mexicans taking over every continent......i don't think so.....they might move in, but they won't take it over.

 

Yeah, you're right but it's fun to exaggerate and blow things out of proportion from time to time.

 

^^of course, i understood what you were saying, but I doubt the Mexicans are up for anything, if I were to exaggerate, I would say the Chinese are capable just because of the sheer numbers.....

 

You're all tripping ***** if you think any other race has been so ruthless to people of other races as whites have, over ALL of history. Yeah, the Chinese and Mongolians have been going at it...so have Germans and French, but neither is racially motivated. When the colonialists showed up to most places, they decided the whites were better based on prejudice and totally redirected history in those places.

I disagree completely, and so do most non-morons. The diseases alone that colonists brought decimated populations of natives. You think black South Africans, Aztecs, and Native North Americans agree with you on this issue? I doubt it. In fact...name me ONE place where the native people benefitted from colonialism. I was under the impression that everyone already KNOWS that colonialism was a huge mistake.

Not to mention the reasoning behind the white colonists taking over native people's land was because they were racist against non-whites (thought they were more primative so they needed help, etc.)

I'm shocked at how ignorant people in this forum are to the attrocitis commited by white people in history, and how some of you think other racial groups have been just as bad in terms of racist elitism.

 

obviously you haven't been read the posts before you posted, in the last 500-1000yrs the whites have done the most colonization and brutalization of other races and civ's=that is why whites now feel responsible to give handouts, etc.....

other races have been just as bad.......its not about black, white, yellow, etc.....its about mankind, just the nature of the beast.

 

^^I DID read that...what I'm saying is none of you have proof. When did blacks find a bunch of whites and kill them all, make them slaves, take over their land. Or when did South American natives introduce disease to a whole continent of whites...even before the last 1000-2000 years.


Give me proof that non-whites have brutalized races other than themselves EVER, and I'll conceed. There's a reason 'colonialism' was new in the last 1000 or so years...because before then, there wasn't the ability to jump around the world and brutalize people of other races. So if you conceed that in the last milenium that whites have done the most heinous racist things, then you are neccesarily admitting that over all of history whites are the #1 perpetrators of racism. It's a fact...denying it leads to more racism.

I see your point that it isn't BECAUSE they were white that they were racist. If other races were given the opportunity, perhaps they would have brutalized Europe. But they didn't, and denying that white people have f***ed over every other type of person on earth won't help anyone.

 

saying that in the last 1000 yrs colonization was only possible, and whites are mostly responsible, than that just means whites were the best at building boats and navigating and conquering, so they weren't really racists, they were just sea worthy.....

how about Moors conquering parts of Europe.......they were black

 

Good points. And in a way you're right about the abilities of the white people at the time...but they were racist because of the way they thought about the native people's they encountered. They thought of them as little children who neede the white man's help...racist.

And I'm not sure, but weren't Moore's taken as slaves before they attacked anywhere in Europe? That's retaliation...I did overlook that in my original thinking though.