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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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#1) We lost less in Iraq than Vietnam because our strategy/technology and the nature of the fight in Iraq. We have smart weapons, JDAMs, Hellfires, drones, satelite, etc. that makes killing easier. And not we're not fighting the Iraqie army as we were fighting the entire N. Vietnamese army, more of them, less of us. We are fighting small insurgent cells. More of us, less of them.


I think the point he is trying to make though, is people are saying this war is "worse" than Vietnam which is absolutely crazy to say.

yes we have better technology, and the army we are fighting is much smaller... and.... that sums up the point that this is nothing at all like Vietnam.
Old May 7, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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I mean just look at the reasonings behind Vietnam alone. They were wack.

At least we got a powerful dictator that had been committing genocide for years out of power.
Old May 7, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by evsoul
I think the point he is trying to make though, is people are saying this war is "worse" than Vietnam which is absolutely crazy to say.

yes we have better technology, and the army we are fighting is much smaller... and.... that sums up the point that this is nothing at all like Vietnam.
Agreed, Iraq is no where as bad as Vietnam. And I haven't heard that Iraq is worse than Vietnam. I just hear a lot on the news that people are comparing Bush's Iraq to Johnson's Vietnam and how the Iraq situation is Bush's Vietnam. If we didn't have the technology and still fighting as before in Vietnam, the US soldier death toll would be at least 2-3x higher.
Old May 7, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
I mean just look at the reasonings behind Vietnam alone. They were wack.

At least we got a powerful dictator that had been committing genocide for years out of power.
I don't think the reasoning behind Vietnam was wack. The N. Vietnamese Army was supported by commnist China, a smaller part Russia, and it used the N. Vietnamese to fight its proxy war with the US. But it was the threatening posture of the communists on the free S. Vietnamese people that caused the US to enter Vietnam. As you know, communism was main enemy of the US, like terroism/Al-Qaeda is now.

There are a lot of countries in Africa that were as bad, if not worse, than Saddam during the same time. There is genocide in Darfur/Sudan by it's own leader. But the US does nothing. And overthrowing Saddam because he was committing genocide on the Kurds was not the reason, according to the President initially, to go to war with Iraq. It was the WMD and Saddam's potentiallity of parking a "dirty bomb in the middle of Manhattan" (according to Cheney).
Old May 7, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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I have a question, would this thread have brought such an uproar if the guy said he wants to recruit people for the coast guard?
Old May 7, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by evsoul
I have a question, would this thread have brought such an uproar if the guy said he wants to recruit people for the coast guard?
Maybe. But realize they're just as much apart of the miltary as the rest of the branches. They're no longer apart of the DOT.
Old May 8, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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^^thats my point.

If this was a thread about joining the coast guard I don't think anyone would have raised hell... even though its still a branch of the military.

People are just too bias for life.
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by evsoul
^^thats my point.

If this was a thread about joining the coast guard I don't think anyone would have raised hell... even though its still a branch of the military.

People are just too bias for life.
Its sad that people are that biased.
Old May 8, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers
Old May 8, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by oct1285
this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers
Yeah sadly it turned to **** real quick. I'd consider but I'm already dedicated to one branch. Hope you've had some success otherwise!
Old May 8, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers
well if u haven't noticed because of all the ramble in here i had some questions that my recruiter cant seem to answer...if u can find me a better MOS than 11b right now ill be one of ur numbers next month.

the situation is i dep'd in as 35G and everything went fine except i failed the UA; andd i dont even smoke! so now i have a failed UA on my record and no way of getting a job with a TS clearance. if u can help me out with that it would be much appreciated!
Old May 8, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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First and foremost, everyone is equally entitled to their own opinions in regards to the different issues that have been talked about therein. And that's fine to have those opinions. oct1285 was just asking if anyone was interested. So, if you weren't interested then that's fine; don't join. But if somebody is, then go for it.

For those who are serving or who have served in any branch, Thank you! It's expected for those to question when people don't understand. So that's normal.

Do I believe in war? NO

Does it matter what branch? I would say each branch is detrimental to the different missions. It all depends what the person likes and what they are physically or mentally capable of doing. I've worked with all branches. And each branch had their tough guys, whom were suddenly scared during an attack. Each has their dumb guys, some have their best guys for the job.

Apparantly the military might be combined force; working together as one military just like the other countries...

Last of all, there is more to the war than what is on the news. Everyone has their "individual" mistakes; so don't blame the whole organization. I'm all for it if you want to join, BUT i'm also all for it if you don't want to join. I'm worked with people who are in the military, that were forced to go because they had no other option. Their desire wasn't there. It's just a coincidence that every time someone in the military or government F's up, it was them whom was responsible. . . .


Food for thought: Did you know that there is more terrorist group's than AQIZ? (Al qaida)

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Originally Posted by oct1285
this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers
i feel you. . .hope all turns out well. . . where are you stationed at?
Old May 8, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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oh i'm currently working in alameda right now. I'm on leave before I head off to san antonio, tx



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