Thats why I just said nope, but you have to realize a lot of people support the army/navy but do no support the war. I thank everyone that puts their lives on the line every day to keep us safe!

 

QFT

 

Yeah when the day comes? my *** dude. You are just talking man, if you really believe in what Paul says be a man and go fight, unless you are scared to stand up for what you believe in......

Also as far as nobodies government being perfect, well ours is ****ed big time.........

I know Paul served, I'm just trying to get him to agree that the **** is a scam recently, and that fighting for patriotism and freedom for America is completely different than what we are doing right now. Also no offense to you Paul, but hateroo how the hell do you know how he served or what he did? get off his sack? we've had a lot of solidiers.......in my family as well so don't talk to me..........about that ****, and frankly the wars they fought in were a helluv a lot more important.

I never asked that a country be able to represent every individuals desires (we are way far off from that), but I do believe the government should not be taking advantage of its citizens, sending them off to an illegitimate war, and then ****ing the economy in the meantime....................if you believe in your government right now you are either a dumb****, a rich ******* who will sacrifice humanity for tax cuts, or a complete tool.


If you believe anything that has happened recently has been for the people or in your best interest, may god be with you.

I will agree will Paul we have exactly the gov we deserve..........and that sucks.........I don't feel like I deserve it but..........I can say as a whole we do.

Sorry pal, I'm not trying to discount what the soldiers are doing, and I know it's hard to accept because it makes it seem like they are there for nothing.......

but you sure as hell better not tell me they are fighting for my freedoms right now, cause thats a LIE. The fact is going to war with Iraq has made us look more hypocritical and stupid than ever, that if we had spent some time and money controlling the war machine Israel, then the middle east wouldn't hate us so ******* much, had we at least tried to make it humane.......after fueling/ and birthing the new age inhumanity there. Maybe we'd be a little less likely to be attacked, but all the **** we have done since 2001 has made us more likely to be targeted, and imo rightfully so.

But instead nobody in our gov has the ***** to step up, Carter is over there, a helluv a lot better president than our current one, oh yea and the guy who has been dealing with the problems over there since most of us were born, we wants to go, to help, to fix the problem without picking a side........but no Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists, any intelligent person can agree both of them are terrorist and insane at killing innocent people.............nobody in our gov will speak out towards a resloution..........

Do you realize this is a huge reason why the middle east doesn't like us?

 

Funny, I never thought this was the case for some of the Marines I saw go through some Army pipelines. I always loved when non 0300s came up to me saying, "You know, every Marine is Infantry first." Memories I have served with some great Marines and have nothing but respect for all of them. Actually, I have respect for anyone that serves in any branch. I despise those that spew crap about the military whom never served.

Have you ever served? Your post is ridiculous if you think people enlist for the bonuses. I haven't read the rest of this thread but I'm sure it's stuffed to the gills with diarrhea posts.

And btw, to the cherry that started this thread, why in the hell are you concerned about hometown recruiting anyways? Just show-up and act busy on the phone while planning your evening with family and friends. Even better... try to convince your recruiter you should frequent the nearby mall so you REALLY can try to get the numbers of the skirts walking around staring at you in uniform. I look back on my hometown recruiting and laugh.

 

who you calling cherry? I'm just asking if anyone has any thoughts about enlisted. If no one does, then no biggie i move on. I'm not concerned about it. I get paid either way thank you very much.

 

Some of the finest people I've met in the corporate world are ex-military. A lot of BAIC is kids in hourly wage jobs or talking big by the grace of mommy and daddy - the jealousy shines through.

Regardless of what you believe in or what convictions are, a great stipend, paid for college education and a great resume builder - being in the military trumps the miserable existence most average joes live. Go on, continue being a nobody.


The bottom line is I know more than a few people whose military service lifted them into the middle class, put them through college, gave them a solid and respectable position in life. If only the haters could claim a couple of those

 

I'll agree with that but I think it's a different time and place now. I don't think there is nearly the benefit to there that was in past times. Maybe i'm wrong. But nobody can deny the joke of a war we have, would you really want people fighting who don't believe in what the military and government are doing? Don't I have freedoms not to fight if I don't believe that whats right????
I dunno about you but most of the active solidiers I know are pretty dissapointed with whats been happening. I guess it could build your career but I'd be concerned with what it did to my well being, people should be responsible for their actions, solidier or not.

 

People in the USA should be thank full for EVERYTHING they are given. All of us get to chill on the computer and talk about our thoughts while all the other third world countries are out there fighting on there home front and couldn't even dream about the lives we live. Blessed and safe regardless of our government or the proclaimed recession we're falling into. Saw first hand for 15 months and I am about to see it again for another 12

Gotta dog on the Air Force (aka Mattress Pads)

 

All I have to say is watch your ****ing mouth. Seriously shut the **** up. I've lost alot of weight to meet the requirements, taken the ASVAB, I'm turning in my background check/medical papers in tomorrow, I have a date to go to MEPS to get my phsyical next week. You just don't do it overnight and instantly become a soldier. Don't ****ing kid yourself that I'm sitting here talking out of my *** I'm doing all the god damn steps to become an Airman and there are some damn fine I-Club members in other branches that have helped me along the way to get me where I am, answer any questions they could, and be a damn good mentor for me through this process. It's really hard for people to understand why I want to enlist and sit there and criticize me and why I shouldn't. Please do me a favor and go **** yourself. I hope you hear me loud and clear now.

As far as it being a "scam" to you, so it's not a scam when we have a leader that you like, but when it's someone you dislike...oh god it's a "scam?" How ****ing biased is that? These men and women do their job day in and day out regardless of who the Commander-in-Chief is. They give up their own freedoms, their own personal time, their own LIVES for us. Also, regardless of what branch, everyone is doing their part and are equally important in the process of protecting our nation and our people so don't even try to give me **** for enlisting in the USAF rather than the USMC or ARMY. I'm done bickering with worthless trash like yourself.

 

Alot of people say to me.... "Be sure to check on bonuses and see what you can get." I personally don't care too much about the bonuses. I'm not enlisting to make bread here. I'm in enlisting into the USAF and know damn well there aren't any bonuses unless you're re-upping pretty much.