anyone thinking about joining the army?
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yea i was surprised too. i didnt try to dilute, i assumed i was clean. so i think something crazy happened. i know for the airforce its automatic disqualification for pissing hot, but since i DEP'd for the army they told me come back in 45 days.
does anyone know if i can enlist with airforce now that army ****ed me over???
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yea i was surprised too. i didnt try to dilute, i assumed i was clean. so i think something crazy happened. i know for the airforce its automatic disqualification for pissing hot, but since i DEP'd for the army they told me come back in 45 days.
does anyone know if i can enlist with airforce now that army ****ed me over???
does anyone know if i can enlist with airforce now that army ****ed me over???
Should've just stuck with the Air Force.
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You're a tool man. Seriously, does what you are really fighting for make any difference to you at all?
Fighting for your country isn't as simple as it use to be. You need to be grown up enough to look at what is really going on, and if you think the current actions of the government are right and moral, well thats sad that you will be armed soon. Granted my experience is very limited, I only know a few who have fought in the current war and are from same general area, but from everything they've said..........they would call you an idiot to your face.
Fighting for your country isn't as simple as it use to be. You need to be grown up enough to look at what is really going on, and if you think the current actions of the government are right and moral, well thats sad that you will be armed soon. Granted my experience is very limited, I only know a few who have fought in the current war and are from same general area, but from everything they've said..........they would call you an idiot to your face.
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who you calling a pogue *** remf? pogue? maybe. Remf? definitely not. Been to iraq, done convoys, flew in blackhawks, pulled guard duty. If i was a remf i wouldn't have even left garrison.
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I'm probably too chickencrap to serve and likely move to Canada if crap hits the fan, but I'll never talk smack about anyone who actually does serve.
If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.
Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet
But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.
Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet
But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.
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Muscles
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These are just jokes my buddy who is in the Marines told me lol.
What do I mean by implicit?
For example, take the Military Satellite we shot down with cruise missile in outer space...
#1 Yea right... NASA somehow losses control of a secret military satellite? Not really believable. Cover up story.
#2 We showed military superiority across the globe saying somethin' like "We can hit you pretty much anywhere"
#3 If the US just randomly shot missiles into outerspace for fun, I'm sure that countries would see it as a sign of aggression.
If people would just take time to see what all these wars and things we've done around the world, you can see that there is one thing in mind. A One World Government.
Another fact in the movie... The United States have military bases in more than half the worlds existing countries... and obviously there is no other dominating powerhouse like the US with military bases established everywhere...
Another implicit idea... basically saying if we don't like you, we are close enough to hit you anytime we feel like it. Now THAT is global power. If you have a spare 2 hrs, Zeitgeist (the movie is linked on the internet in my post) is pretty clear cut with facts.
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I haven't watched the documentary yet but it sounds interesting. As for the military satellite we shot down a few months back. It was a malfunctioning spy satellite and its decaying orbit made it unstable and would very likely crash back to earth. All the talk sbout the hydrazine fuel endangering humans and surviving the re-entry is possible but more likely a story to keep tech secrets from other countries. The show of force and ability to shoot it down, from sea I might add, was a message to China (they shot down their satellite last year also) that we can do it from anywhere.
The One World Government is "The New World Order". It's a conspiracy theory. But there are signs that points to it and the US is its head. But I think this has been going on since the dawn of human civilization. Every large culture/society/country wants to dominate its region and world. The US is the most powerful country in the world in its technology/military strength. So, why not have the US as the leader in the OWG? But I don't think that's right. I see the US government as a large corporation like Exxon. The more money it makes, the more it wants to make. And since money=power, you get the US government.
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I haven't watched the documentary yet but it sounds interesting. As for the military satellite we shot down a few months back. It was a malfunctioning spy satellite and its decaying orbit made it unstable and would very likely crash back to earth. All the talk sbout the hydrazine fuel endangering humans and surviving the re-entry is possible but more likely a story to keep tech secrets from other countries. The show of force and ability to shoot it down, from sea I might add, was a message to China (they shot down their satellite last year also) that we can do it from anywhere.
The One World Government is "The New World Order". It's a conspiracy theory. But there are signs that points to it and the US is its head. But I think this has been going on since the dawn of human civilization. Every large culture/society/country wants to dominate its region and world. The US is the most powerful country in the world in its technology/military strength. So, why not have the US as the leader in the OWG? But I don't think that's right. I see the US government as a large corporation like Exxon. The more money it makes, the more it wants to make. And since money=power, you get the US government.
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I can see your frustrations pertaining to our current military actions overseas. I will state for the record, I believe our Government lied to us when they said that we were invading Iraq to go after WMD's. Rather than giving a dumbed down simplification of why we invaded Iraq, the government thought it would just be easier to say, "wmd's". The truth is, we had to establish a foot print in the middle east. You say there is no importance to this "war", yet I disagree. I feel that this is one of the most important military operations we have conducted since WW2. Iraq was an enemy of the U.S. just as many other countries in the middle east are. We went in, made and example out of Saddam and have established a base of operations next door to our other enemies. We will always be in the middle east. No matter who gets elected to office, they aren't pulling troops out of there. Our enemies are there and now we've made it perfectly clear to them that we will do whatever it takes to maintain the American way of life you, me, and everyone else on this forum has come to enjoy. Our men and women aren't over there eating sand for nothing.
I can see your frustrations pertaining to our current military actions overseas. I will state for the record, I believe our Government lied to us when they said that we were invading Iraq to go after WMD's. Rather than giving a dumbed down simplification of why we invaded Iraq, the government thought it would just be easier to say, "wmd's". The truth is, we had to establish a foot print in the middle east. You say there is no importance to this "war", yet I disagree. I feel that this is one of the most important military operations we have conducted since WW2. Iraq was an enemy of the U.S. just as many other countries in the middle east are. We went in, made and example out of Saddam and have established a base of operations next door to our other enemies. We will always be in the middle east. No matter who gets elected to office, they aren't pulling troops out of there. Our enemies are there and now we've made it perfectly clear to them that we will do whatever it takes to maintain the American way of life you, me, and everyone else on this forum has come to enjoy. Our men and women aren't over there eating sand for nothing.
Yeah when the day comes? my *** dude. You are just talking man, if you really believe in what Paul says be a man and go fight, unless you are scared to stand up for what you believe in......
Also as far as nobodies government being perfect, well ours is ****ed big time.........
I know Paul served, I'm just trying to get him to agree that the **** is a scam recently, and that fighting for patriotism and freedom for America is completely different than what we are doing right now. Also no offense to you Paul, but hateroo how the hell do you know how he served or what he did? get off his sack? we've had a lot of solidiers.......in my family as well so don't talk to me..........about that ****, and frankly the wars they fought in were a helluv a lot more important.
I never asked that a country be able to represent every individuals desires (we are way far off from that), but I do believe the government should not be taking advantage of its citizens, sending them off to an illegitimate war, and then ****ing the economy in the meantime....................if you believe in your government right now you are either a dumb****, a rich ******* who will sacrifice humanity for tax cuts, or a complete tool.
If you believe anything that has happened recently has been for the people or in your best interest, may god be with you.
I will agree will Paul we have exactly the gov we deserve..........and that sucks.........I don't feel like I deserve it but..........I can say as a whole we do.
Sorry pal, I'm not trying to discount what the soldiers are doing, and I know it's hard to accept because it makes it seem like they are there for nothing.......
but you sure as hell better not tell me they are fighting for my freedoms right now, cause thats a LIE. The fact is going to war with Iraq has made us look more hypocritical and stupid than ever, that if we had spent some time and money controlling the war machine Israel, then the middle east wouldn't hate us so ******* much, had we at least tried to make it humane.......after fueling/ and birthing the new age inhumanity there. Maybe we'd be a little less likely to be attacked, but all the **** we have done since 2001 has made us more likely to be targeted, and imo rightfully so.
But instead nobody in our gov has the ***** to step up, Carter is over there, a helluv a lot better president than our current one, oh yea and the guy who has been dealing with the problems over there since most of us were born, we wants to go, to help, to fix the problem without picking a side........but no Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists, any intelligent person can agree both of them are terrorist and insane at killing innocent people.............nobody in our gov will speak out towards a resloution..........
Do you realize this is a huge reason why the middle east doesn't like us?
Also as far as nobodies government being perfect, well ours is ****ed big time.........
I know Paul served, I'm just trying to get him to agree that the **** is a scam recently, and that fighting for patriotism and freedom for America is completely different than what we are doing right now. Also no offense to you Paul, but hateroo how the hell do you know how he served or what he did? get off his sack? we've had a lot of solidiers.......in my family as well so don't talk to me..........about that ****, and frankly the wars they fought in were a helluv a lot more important.
I never asked that a country be able to represent every individuals desires (we are way far off from that), but I do believe the government should not be taking advantage of its citizens, sending them off to an illegitimate war, and then ****ing the economy in the meantime....................if you believe in your government right now you are either a dumb****, a rich ******* who will sacrifice humanity for tax cuts, or a complete tool.
If you believe anything that has happened recently has been for the people or in your best interest, may god be with you.
I will agree will Paul we have exactly the gov we deserve..........and that sucks.........I don't feel like I deserve it but..........I can say as a whole we do.
Sorry pal, I'm not trying to discount what the soldiers are doing, and I know it's hard to accept because it makes it seem like they are there for nothing.......
but you sure as hell better not tell me they are fighting for my freedoms right now, cause thats a LIE. The fact is going to war with Iraq has made us look more hypocritical and stupid than ever, that if we had spent some time and money controlling the war machine Israel, then the middle east wouldn't hate us so ******* much, had we at least tried to make it humane.......after fueling/ and birthing the new age inhumanity there. Maybe we'd be a little less likely to be attacked, but all the **** we have done since 2001 has made us more likely to be targeted, and imo rightfully so.
But instead nobody in our gov has the ***** to step up, Carter is over there, a helluv a lot better president than our current one, oh yea and the guy who has been dealing with the problems over there since most of us were born, we wants to go, to help, to fix the problem without picking a side........but no Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists, any intelligent person can agree both of them are terrorist and insane at killing innocent people.............nobody in our gov will speak out towards a resloution..........
Do you realize this is a huge reason why the middle east doesn't like us?
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I just read a few posts about the conspiracy theories. Really, do you think the U.S. needs to show the world it can shoot down satellites? The world knows we have the most advanced military. We don't need to flex. Rather we're doing our best to keep most of our high power stuff a secret. We have planes that can shoot down ICBM's in 5 seconds with lasers. The range on these things is the curvature of the earth! We really don't have any reason to show the world we can shoot down a satellite. Why shoot down a spy satellite when we can just send the space shuttle up there to get it and bring it back? The only time you'll see the U.S. use it's military might won't be to prove we can do something, rather to show that we're willing to do something.
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... ******* cherry.
.... thanks for your service, though. You're cool in my book.
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The US needed to test its antisatellite SM-3 ABM system. Previously, the Ground Base Mid-Course Defense system only scored 33% hit rate. The SM-3 is a Sea Base Mid-Course Defense system. The satellite shoot-down was the first test on an orbiting vehicle. All the previous tests were on dummy ballistic missiles launched from US soil. This was to prove to ourselves and the world that the sea base system works on satellites also. Yes, the US don't have to prove itself but who says the US government is modest in projecting its military might.
The US needed to test its antisatellite SM-3 ABM system. Previously, the Ground Base Mid-Course Defense system only scored 33% hit rate. The SM-3 is a Sea Base Mid-Course Defense system. The satellite shoot-down was the first test on an orbiting vehicle. All the previous tests were on dummy ballistic missiles launched from US soil. This was to prove to ourselves and the world that the sea base system works on satellites also. Yes, the US don't have to prove itself but who says the US government is modest in projecting its military might.



