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Well you get what you pay for. My mom has yet to have a problem with her mercedes that wasn't fixed promptly and properly, no matter how many tries it took.
Originally posted by Sisqocqk
SOA and the dealership are the same thing! When the 2nd baseman makes an error the whole team suffers and looks bad. When you ****-up at work they want to talk to your manager or boss, right!? Sh*t rolls down hill so SOA and the dealer are the same.
SOA and the dealership are the same thing! When the 2nd baseman makes an error the whole team suffers and looks bad. When you ****-up at work they want to talk to your manager or boss, right!? Sh*t rolls down hill so SOA and the dealer are the same.
Have you talked to SOA in any case? Not all dealerships are the same. This holds true for other car manufacturers as well. I've had issues with certain Chevy and Mazda dealerships myself. However, I realized their performance in those situations did not reflect the overall customer service level of the manufacturers themselves (or other dealerships).
Did you give SOA a chance to resolve the problem you had with your particular dealer?
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Originally posted by Kean
You don't need to shout profanity to have a conversation with me.
Have you talked to SOA in any case? Not all dealerships are the same. This holds true for other car manufacturers as well. I've had issues with certain Chevy and Mazda dealerships myself. However, I realized their performance in those situations did not reflect the overall customer service level of the manufacturers themselves (or other dealerships).
Did you give SOA a chance to resolve the problem you had with your particular dealer?
- Kean
You don't need to shout profanity to have a conversation with me.
Have you talked to SOA in any case? Not all dealerships are the same. This holds true for other car manufacturers as well. I've had issues with certain Chevy and Mazda dealerships myself. However, I realized their performance in those situations did not reflect the overall customer service level of the manufacturers themselves (or other dealerships).
Did you give SOA a chance to resolve the problem you had with your particular dealer?
- Kean
But the bottom line is a warranty is a warranty regardless of what you pay for in the end. If i hold my Mother's warranty and mine side to side they'll be exactly the same and both are a binding contract with written signature. am i right?
the price tag is one thing. i think we should look at the demographics of wrx ownership. some guys mod their cars to high-heaven, abuse it, and expect subaru to cover it.
if anything, guys who are abusing their wrx's are ruining it for the rest of us.
the premium service at the mercedes dealership is nice...but you pay a premium for that.
if anything, guys who are abusing their wrx's are ruining it for the rest of us.
the premium service at the mercedes dealership is nice...but you pay a premium for that.
Originally posted by Sisqocqk
Kean, my man... that's just how i am pay no attention and take no offense.
But the bottom line is a warranty is a warranty regardless of what you pay for in the end. If i hold my Mother's warranty and mine side to side they'll be exactly the same and both are a binding contract with written signature. am i right?
Kean, my man... that's just how i am pay no attention and take no offense.
But the bottom line is a warranty is a warranty regardless of what you pay for in the end. If i hold my Mother's warranty and mine side to side they'll be exactly the same and both are a binding contract with written signature. am i right?
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You guys seem t be missing my point. Can you name 1 subaru dealer that'll give you the same service my mother got? doubt it.
The fact is she got that service from the same exact type of warranty. Same type of verbage/word usage, same yellow piece of carbon paper and same signature on the dotted line etc etc.
It's a shame SOA and DEALERS don't do the same.
Eric
The fact is she got that service from the same exact type of warranty. Same type of verbage/word usage, same yellow piece of carbon paper and same signature on the dotted line etc etc.
It's a shame SOA and DEALERS don't do the same.
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I did want to add to this thread again --
Though it was difficult to get Subaru to agree to fix my seat, they called me today because they had received the parts I need. This repair is one they can only do during the week (M-F) so they offered to get me a rental at their expense. I didn't expect that and thought it was pretty good of them to do that.
So, while I too have been unhappy with their service, I do appreciate their offer on this and it makes me a much happier customer.
Though it was difficult to get Subaru to agree to fix my seat, they called me today because they had received the parts I need. This repair is one they can only do during the week (M-F) so they offered to get me a rental at their expense. I didn't expect that and thought it was pretty good of them to do that.
So, while I too have been unhappy with their service, I do appreciate their offer on this and it makes me a much happier customer.
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Most of this sounds like BS to me but what do I know.
They replaced the 10 disc changer because it was feeding slowly:The dealer didnt pay for it Mercedes did. So there really was a defect or that dealer scammed Mercedes.
Face of stereo because of wear?: Again dealer scamming Mercedes or BS
the Cat Converter: Has to be covered in all 50 states for 8 years or 80,000 miles federal law. was it defective or was the dealer again scamming Mercedes??
the 02 sensor: 4 year 50,000 mile item. was it defective or again a scam?
changed the oil, replaced the ATF and brake fluid & checked all fluids, they re-greased all the bushings: Sounds like this was covered in her maintenance program
u-joints: defective under warranty or dealer scam?
re-wrapped the steering wheel because of wear: again scam or BS
re- finished and polished her wheels: Nice dealer or BS
changed her brake pads, turned the rotars : Were they defective and under warranty?
You lost me.
Anyways Subaru in general in no way has the best service.
Mercedes doesnt have the best service either. Infiniti , Lincoln, and Lexus lead luxury service.
Brands like Volkswagen and Hyundai are even far worse than Subaru.
My advice, trade the Suby for that cool C-class coupe and you will feel all the love (in your opinion). Plus you wont loose any more sleep.:banana:
They replaced the 10 disc changer because it was feeding slowly:The dealer didnt pay for it Mercedes did. So there really was a defect or that dealer scammed Mercedes.
Face of stereo because of wear?: Again dealer scamming Mercedes or BS
the Cat Converter: Has to be covered in all 50 states for 8 years or 80,000 miles federal law. was it defective or was the dealer again scamming Mercedes??
the 02 sensor: 4 year 50,000 mile item. was it defective or again a scam?
changed the oil, replaced the ATF and brake fluid & checked all fluids, they re-greased all the bushings: Sounds like this was covered in her maintenance program
u-joints: defective under warranty or dealer scam?
re-wrapped the steering wheel because of wear: again scam or BS
re- finished and polished her wheels: Nice dealer or BS
changed her brake pads, turned the rotars : Were they defective and under warranty?
You lost me.
Anyways Subaru in general in no way has the best service.
Mercedes doesnt have the best service either. Infiniti , Lincoln, and Lexus lead luxury service.
Brands like Volkswagen and Hyundai are even far worse than Subaru.
My advice, trade the Suby for that cool C-class coupe and you will feel all the love (in your opinion). Plus you wont loose any more sleep.:banana:
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Originally posted by catdogr
Most of this sounds like BS to me but what do I know.
They replaced the 10 disc changer because it was feeding slowly:The dealer didnt pay for it Mercedes did. So there really was a defect or that dealer scammed Mercedes.
Face of stereo because of wear?: Again dealer scamming Mercedes or BS
the Cat Converter: Has to be covered in all 50 states for 8 years or 80,000 miles federal law. was it defective or was the dealer again scamming Mercedes??
the 02 sensor: 4 year 50,000 mile item. was it defective or again a scam?
changed the oil, replaced the ATF and brake fluid & checked all fluids, they re-greased all the bushings: Sounds like this was covered in her maintenance program
u-joints: defective under warranty or dealer scam?
re-wrapped the steering wheel because of wear: again scam or BS
re- finished and polished her wheels: Nice dealer or BS
changed her brake pads, turned the rotars : Were they defective and under warranty?
Most of this sounds like BS to me but what do I know.
They replaced the 10 disc changer because it was feeding slowly:The dealer didnt pay for it Mercedes did. So there really was a defect or that dealer scammed Mercedes.
Face of stereo because of wear?: Again dealer scamming Mercedes or BS
the Cat Converter: Has to be covered in all 50 states for 8 years or 80,000 miles federal law. was it defective or was the dealer again scamming Mercedes??
the 02 sensor: 4 year 50,000 mile item. was it defective or again a scam?
changed the oil, replaced the ATF and brake fluid & checked all fluids, they re-greased all the bushings: Sounds like this was covered in her maintenance program
u-joints: defective under warranty or dealer scam?
re-wrapped the steering wheel because of wear: again scam or BS
re- finished and polished her wheels: Nice dealer or BS
changed her brake pads, turned the rotars : Were they defective and under warranty?
Jesus, people.
He is simply saying that he wishes Subaru provided better service than they do, and then used an example of EXCELLENT service that he experienced, which was provided by the Mercedes dealership. I agree with him that Subaru should provide better service than they do.
Have a read through the Maintenance and Warranty section, and though many of the cases in there are abuse, you'll see many instances of Subaru making it very difficult to receive warranty service for legitimate repairs.
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I am not on Subaru's band wagon or anything. But with the number or people I see on Forums with heavily modded WRX's that shouldnt be warrantied its amazing.
The real problem is people who have modded their cars beyond where things should be covered under warranty and then try to get Subaru to foot the bill and spoil it for the rest of us.
Think about it. Things that Subaru should say no way to your warranty about.
Turbo-back exhaust, no-cats, gutted cats, boost control, engine management, larger turbo, larger injectors, larger fuel pump, engine internals, etc.
Should Subaru not offer a claim to a guy with a bad power window motor who has done any of these mods. NO they should repair the window motor.
Should Subaru pay for a airbag sensor for a guy with UTEC. No they shouldnt pay in this case.
Subaru has been put in an odd spot with the popularity of the WRX and the modding that gets done to it.
Does Honda have this problem?? One fact is 90% or Rice wont ruin a warranty. Fart cans, neon lights, APC stickers all these are warranty legal:banana:
There are people who are doing engine managent and internals on Hondas but most arent.Soo Honda has no problem with Warranty.
Finally: His story about his mom, if it is BS or a dealer scam then it is relavant.
Lets say I bought my WRX for $12,000 from a chop shop stolen. Should I say all you guys got ripped off for paying so much? Post on here your dealer sucks you paid too much??
The real problem is people who have modded their cars beyond where things should be covered under warranty and then try to get Subaru to foot the bill and spoil it for the rest of us.
Think about it. Things that Subaru should say no way to your warranty about.
Turbo-back exhaust, no-cats, gutted cats, boost control, engine management, larger turbo, larger injectors, larger fuel pump, engine internals, etc.
Should Subaru not offer a claim to a guy with a bad power window motor who has done any of these mods. NO they should repair the window motor.
Should Subaru pay for a airbag sensor for a guy with UTEC. No they shouldnt pay in this case.
Subaru has been put in an odd spot with the popularity of the WRX and the modding that gets done to it.
Does Honda have this problem?? One fact is 90% or Rice wont ruin a warranty. Fart cans, neon lights, APC stickers all these are warranty legal:banana:
There are people who are doing engine managent and internals on Hondas but most arent.Soo Honda has no problem with Warranty.
Finally: His story about his mom, if it is BS or a dealer scam then it is relavant.
Lets say I bought my WRX for $12,000 from a chop shop stolen. Should I say all you guys got ripped off for paying so much? Post on here your dealer sucks you paid too much??
Originally posted by Sisqocqk
You guys seem t be missing my point. Can you name 1 subaru dealer that'll give you the same service my mother got? doubt it.
The fact is she got that service from the same exact type of warranty. Same type of verbage/word usage, same yellow piece of carbon paper and same signature on the dotted line etc etc.
It's a shame SOA and DEALERS don't do the same.
Eric
You guys seem t be missing my point. Can you name 1 subaru dealer that'll give you the same service my mother got? doubt it.
The fact is she got that service from the same exact type of warranty. Same type of verbage/word usage, same yellow piece of carbon paper and same signature on the dotted line etc etc.
It's a shame SOA and DEALERS don't do the same.
Eric
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Originally posted by Kean
I don't see how you could honestly think you would receive the same level of service your mom gets at her Mercedes dealership vs. Subaru. My brother has a 15 yr old Mercedes wagon. His dealership has given him a couple free repairs (no longer under warranty) for some small interior items that broke. Although I don't expect that level of service, I do expect warranty repairs to be performed whenever necessary (without a hassle). .......Irvine Subaru has come through for me every time in that respect. They've never turned me away or given me grief for any warranty item I had to have taken care of (as I said before). They've even been able to perform regular maintenance/installs in a timely fashion. Your issue(s) has to do with a particular dealership (not SOA).
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I don't see how you could honestly think you would receive the same level of service your mom gets at her Mercedes dealership vs. Subaru. My brother has a 15 yr old Mercedes wagon. His dealership has given him a couple free repairs (no longer under warranty) for some small interior items that broke. Although I don't expect that level of service, I do expect warranty repairs to be performed whenever necessary (without a hassle). .......Irvine Subaru has come through for me every time in that respect. They've never turned me away or given me grief for any warranty item I had to have taken care of (as I said before). They've even been able to perform regular maintenance/installs in a timely fashion. Your issue(s) has to do with a particular dealership (not SOA).
- Kean
I think the problem is with Subaru dealers in general, and you're just one of the fortunate few to have a really good dealer.
Originally posted by sonicsuby
I actually think you're just lucky. Even before I bought my WRX I heard about how great Irvine was. I can't think of a single dealer in this area (I live in the same area as sisqocqk) that would provide anywhere near the same level of service as Irvine does. Like I said, browse the maint/warranty section - there are tons of people with claims that appear to be legitimate who are being denied warranty work and it's not fair.
I think the problem is with Subaru dealers in general, and you're just one of the fortunate few to have a really good dealer.
I actually think you're just lucky. Even before I bought my WRX I heard about how great Irvine was. I can't think of a single dealer in this area (I live in the same area as sisqocqk) that would provide anywhere near the same level of service as Irvine does. Like I said, browse the maint/warranty section - there are tons of people with claims that appear to be legitimate who are being denied warranty work and it's not fair.
I think the problem is with Subaru dealers in general, and you're just one of the fortunate few to have a really good dealer.
Most of the denials I've read about have nothing to do with "floor mat anchors". They are usually about "abuse" issues dealing with the transmission or engine. .....and I take these claims with a grain of salt. Out of curiosity, I've caught several folks lying about their "abusive" past on these Subaru sites. I'm not saying everyone is a liar and nobody will ever have a problem getting legitimate warranty repairs taken care of. However, people need to realize that these forums are a small sampling of the entire Subaru community and the issue should be looked at with more objectivity.
Sisqocqk was making a general statement of "SOA's" service level. I merely pointed out that it seemed his problem had more to do with a particular dealership than with SOA's policy on warranty repairs/service. Unfortunately, the level of service can differ between dealerships and is not unique to just Subaru. I've had personal issues with certain Chevy & Mazda dealerships myself (my sister with Ford and my fiance with Honda). In each case it wasn't a problem with the manufacturer, but just the dealership we went to. If Sisqocqk's point was that he wished every dealer/manufacturer had a policy like Mercedes, then I agree. .......I wish that was the case as well.
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Originally posted by Sisqocqk
Can you name 1 subaru dealer that'll give you the same service my mother got? doubt it.
Can you name 1 subaru dealer that'll give you the same service my mother got? doubt it.
It should not be rocket science that you will get better service from a Mercedes or Lexus dealership than you would from a Subaru or Honda dealership. The service is included in the cost of the car.
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Originally posted by BlingBlingBlue
Subaru of Santa Cruz. By coincidence they also happen to service Mercedes at the same location.
It should not be rocket science that you will get better service from a Mercedes or Lexus dealership than you would from a Subaru or Honda dealership. The service is included in the cost of the car.
Subaru of Santa Cruz. By coincidence they also happen to service Mercedes at the same location.
It should not be rocket science that you will get better service from a Mercedes or Lexus dealership than you would from a Subaru or Honda dealership. The service is included in the cost of the car.
Yet another person misses the point. First of all you're actually buying a mercedes which is why it costs a lot
I've driven a few and they're solid luxury cars and the fact they've been imported from germany with high demand is the fact they cost so much too.If you look at the extended warranty there's no clause in it that states "It shouldn't be rocket science that we're going to **** you over and cut corners. To tell you the truth you should have bought a mercedes because we really don't have a parts division at all
We're just putting more $$$ in our pockets while giving you a sense of false security... You're a complete tool now please bend over the finance table, drop your pants and SIGN HERE----->"Therefore. if Im buying a POS car with a warranty exactly the same as the mercedes warranty (the only difference is the car name at the top of the paper) it SHOULDN'T MATTER! That warranty should be a legal bond with outstanding customer service regardless. If i break something under warranty then it should be fixed asap. I didn't set the price of the warranty, SOA did jackass so don't you think they'd follow through with it!?
Oh and BTW im sure a lot of you forgot that MOPAR is developing a Stg2 kit for the SRT4 that's completely carb/50state legal and completely under warranty if installed by the dealer. With that said, dodge is pretty much saying "buy a car for the same price as the WRX, go x2 FASTAR, run it into the ground as hard as you can then bring it back and we'll fix it without question"
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