Subaru Class Action lawsuit-Warranty Issues
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I was recently the victim of Subaru's horrible warranty denial policy after my transmission went out on me. My car was never raced, no major power mods-yet Subaru denied my warranty before even looking at it. I spoke with the technician at Jeff Wyler Subaru in Forest Park, OH and he told me that when the regional representative called about my case the first thing he said was "If any of the teeth are broken, deny the warranty." He never looked at the vehicle and had not heard any details of my case, but immediatly dismissed it to "driver abuse". I only have 16,000 miles on my car and I never beat on it or raced it.
Well I've heard of this happening far to many times to other people and I'm tired of Subaru screwing over it's loyal customers. I'm filing a class action lawsuit against Subaru Of America. What that does is allow an entire group of people with the same complaint to file 1 lawsuit against them for a large sum of money to be divided up among the plaintiffs.
If you've ever had any experience with Subaru's shady warranty procedures please go to http://www.BigClassAction.com and log a complaint with them. Use case # 234714 when searching for it. The more people we can get on this, the more powerful it will be, and the more money we will receive in the end. Please do not let Subaru get away with this, they've taken too much money from too many people already. Thanks for all your support!
Well I've heard of this happening far to many times to other people and I'm tired of Subaru screwing over it's loyal customers. I'm filing a class action lawsuit against Subaru Of America. What that does is allow an entire group of people with the same complaint to file 1 lawsuit against them for a large sum of money to be divided up among the plaintiffs.
If you've ever had any experience with Subaru's shady warranty procedures please go to http://www.BigClassAction.com and log a complaint with them. Use case # 234714 when searching for it. The more people we can get on this, the more powerful it will be, and the more money we will receive in the end. Please do not let Subaru get away with this, they've taken too much money from too many people already. Thanks for all your support!
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He probably doesn't want to go small claims because he doesn't necessarily care about getting money for only himself, which is just chump change. The purpose of class actions is to hurt the Defendant's wallet so they change their money grubbing ways. Doing it this way not only gets him what he deserves, but it may change how Subaru operates. Power in numbers.
I agree with ScoobyDoobie completely, if they're not even going to look at his car and not honor the warranty which is part of the contract, then they should just knock 5 grand off the selling price of the car because the warranty is worthless. Its a major part of the whole deal and why a lot of ppl bought new subarus in the first place.
More power to you ScoobyDoobie!
I agree with ScoobyDoobie completely, if they're not even going to look at his car and not honor the warranty which is part of the contract, then they should just knock 5 grand off the selling price of the car because the warranty is worthless. Its a major part of the whole deal and why a lot of ppl bought new subarus in the first place.
More power to you ScoobyDoobie!
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Good job man. I haven't had any warranty issues such as yours, and hopefully won't have to. If they try to deny me on something legit, I'll be signing up
You may want to post his on NASIOC also.
Good job man. I haven't had any warranty issues such as yours, and hopefully won't have to. If they try to deny me on something legit, I'll be signing up

You may want to post his on NASIOC also.
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First off, I sympathize with your situation and wish you the best of luck in getting it resolved fairly. If what you say is accurate, the law has been violated and it is the burden of the warrantor to prove the damage was a result of abuse. Unfortunately, you have to take legal action in order to enforce your warranty.
Having said that, the reality is you are just as much a victim of the individuals who think it is OK to modify their car and increase power levels higher than stock and then return the car to stock form after they have broken something in order to get warranty service. Again, I am not condoning SOA's actions, particularly in your case. However, their actions are a reaction to people trying to cheat them. The moral is that we ALL pay for cheaters.
I will add that I have had outstanding warranty service on my car from Subaru of Santa Cruz. My next car will be a Subaru, likely a Legacy. However, if it weren't for the outstanding service I have received, I would not consider the brand again for a very long time.
Again, good luck. I, like you, have heard similar stories far too often.
Having said that, the reality is you are just as much a victim of the individuals who think it is OK to modify their car and increase power levels higher than stock and then return the car to stock form after they have broken something in order to get warranty service. Again, I am not condoning SOA's actions, particularly in your case. However, their actions are a reaction to people trying to cheat them. The moral is that we ALL pay for cheaters.
I will add that I have had outstanding warranty service on my car from Subaru of Santa Cruz. My next car will be a Subaru, likely a Legacy. However, if it weren't for the outstanding service I have received, I would not consider the brand again for a very long time.
Again, good luck. I, like you, have heard similar stories far too often.
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Originally posted by BlingBlingBlue
First off, I sympathize with your situation and wish you the best of luck in getting it resolved fairly. If what you say is accurate, the law has been violated and it is the burden of the warrantor to prove the damage was a result of abuse. Unfortunately, you have to take legal action in order to enforce your warranty.
First off, I sympathize with your situation and wish you the best of luck in getting it resolved fairly. If what you say is accurate, the law has been violated and it is the burden of the warrantor to prove the damage was a result of abuse. Unfortunately, you have to take legal action in order to enforce your warranty.
It may become rather sticky in trying to determine who is a part of this class. How are the courts going to know who modded and who did not, who abused and who did not, who raced and who did not? There probably won't be any monetary awards coming this way, only equitable relief.
Also, it may get somewhat expensive if thousands of people join.....postage for paperwork to all the class members, etc. But Subaru maybe billed if you win.
.....Just some thoughts
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Joe Schmoe,
I am not a lawyer, but I believe the Magnuson-Moss Act provides broad protection to consumers for this kind of abuse. This act is often discussed in the context of after-market parts voiding warranties, but it is a much broader law intended, among other things, to require warrantors to fully disclose the terms of their warranty and to make it easier for consumers to quickly get remedy for unfairly denied warranty work. Fortunately, I have no direct experience.
I agree it will be difficult to determine who should be a member of this suit. If it was me, I'd pull out my warranty contract and read the section on dispute resolution (another thing the Magnussom-Moss Act requires). It would likely lead to a quicker, less costly and less emotionally taxing resolution. I by no means mean any disrespect to ScoobyDoobie, I am just stating the way I would handle it. If he has the time, patience and money to front for good legal counsel, I say more power to him!
BTW, ScoobyDoobie, search the transmission forums. A lawyer posted there several months ago who was representing an individual whose warranty was denied for a broken transmission. It may be prudent to contact him and see what the status of his case is. In the unlikely event that the case is already resolved, you may have some legal precedent for your attorney to study. This will likely save you high $ billed hours.
I am not a lawyer, but I believe the Magnuson-Moss Act provides broad protection to consumers for this kind of abuse. This act is often discussed in the context of after-market parts voiding warranties, but it is a much broader law intended, among other things, to require warrantors to fully disclose the terms of their warranty and to make it easier for consumers to quickly get remedy for unfairly denied warranty work. Fortunately, I have no direct experience.
I agree it will be difficult to determine who should be a member of this suit. If it was me, I'd pull out my warranty contract and read the section on dispute resolution (another thing the Magnussom-Moss Act requires). It would likely lead to a quicker, less costly and less emotionally taxing resolution. I by no means mean any disrespect to ScoobyDoobie, I am just stating the way I would handle it. If he has the time, patience and money to front for good legal counsel, I say more power to him!
BTW, ScoobyDoobie, search the transmission forums. A lawyer posted there several months ago who was representing an individual whose warranty was denied for a broken transmission. It may be prudent to contact him and see what the status of his case is. In the unlikely event that the case is already resolved, you may have some legal precedent for your attorney to study. This will likely save you high $ billed hours.
blingblingblue...what do you mean by "dispute resolution"? I have looked all over my owners manual and warranty info booklet, all I can find is SOA damn 800 number, I would love to have my lawyer send them a letter with my concern and outrage concerning my warranty denial. thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by DOHCammin
blingblingblue...what do you mean by "dispute resolution"? I have looked all over my owners manual and warranty info booklet, all I can find is SOA damn 800 number, I would love to have my lawyer send them a letter with my concern and outrage concerning my warranty denial. thanks in advance.
blingblingblue...what do you mean by "dispute resolution"? I have looked all over my owners manual and warranty info booklet, all I can find is SOA damn 800 number, I would love to have my lawyer send them a letter with my concern and outrage concerning my warranty denial. thanks in advance.
Also, under Magnasson Moss, 15 United States Code
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Originally posted by DOHCammin
blingblingblue...what do you mean by "dispute resolution"? I have looked all over my owners manual and warranty info booklet, all I can find is SOA damn 800 number, I would love to have my lawyer send them a letter with my concern and outrage concerning my warranty denial. thanks in advance.
blingblingblue...what do you mean by "dispute resolution"? I have looked all over my owners manual and warranty info booklet, all I can find is SOA damn 800 number, I would love to have my lawyer send them a letter with my concern and outrage concerning my warranty denial. thanks in advance.
He means some kind of mediation or arbitration clause that was probably inserted into the contract. Usually companies like to weasel in a mandatory arbitration clause (arbitration generally favors the corporation- you're better off suing in court). And from what I know about Magnassun Moss, I don't think a dispute resolution section has to be in the warranty (I may be wrong). But you don't want to go to arbitration anyways.
ScoobyDoobie:
First of all, I think that you need to determine who you want to sue. Subaru of America, or Jeff Wyler Subaru. Depending on whether you sue the manufacturer or the retailer, the requirements will differ. I recommend suing both.
Under Magnasson Moss, (15 United States Code sections 2301-2312), you may sue in either state (Ohio) court or Federal court. To bring a class action in Federal court, every individual claim must be in excess of 25 dollars, the total amount in controversy must exceed 50 thousand dollars, and the number of plaintiffs listed in your complaint must exceed 100 people. I have no clue as to Ohio's requirements.
In order for people to be included in this class and have standing to sue, they must have been damaged by the faulty warranty. So I guess what this means is that if you wish to join Scooby Doobie, you must have actually taken in your car, been rejected, and had your car fixed out of your own pocket.
If expert testimony is required (to determine if you thrashed your car or not), you can recover from SOA however much you had to pay the expert to testify for you (ifyou win), and you can also recover your attorney's fees, and possibly postage and costs for contacting your class (if you win).
You can also bring an action under the Uniform Commercial Code. SOA may have violated not only their warranty, but the implied warranty of merchantability which says that the car must at least run.
Finally you may also bring an action under any State Codes that you have that deal with warranties.
(Do not rely on anything I said 100%! Confirm with your counsel. I'm not a lawyer, just a law student. But I have worked closely with a very good consumer attorney in the past.)
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