I got mine last night and already have 3 rattles, lol... at least I expected them.

 

The way I drive my STI sometimes it'd be dumb to have anything in the cupholder anyway. Solved the brake dust by getting new pads. Rear leg room thats the person who sits in the back seats problem. Yes I agree if your going to make the majority of the lights red make all of them red. Car should come with 3" TBE.

 

your cons are sooo measily .. this car is a all drivers car.. its not really a luxury car.. u cant compare it to your TL .. if u want something thats more comfy .. buy the new TL .. its v6 w/ 276 hp .. and you dont have to worry about your cons..

 

true dat. no offense but it didnt sound like you researched the sti before you bought the car. this is a sports car with 4 doors. no matter what you do theres nothing you can do about the rattling... look at ferraris, porsches, lambos etc. they all rattle.

like the quote says this is a drivers car. you may want to trade in your car for the legacy gt. thats closer to your "tl" feel. i'm sorry to say but it is really dissapointing and unfortunate that people do not research the cars they are going to buy just to look "cool".

 

i don't agree with those comments about him not researching the car before buying, or should go with the TL. It's obvious his pro's far outweigh the cons. The only things i disagree with on the cons are the homelink (don't know what that is) and the "sound of the engine at idle" - don't know if he means the valvetrain noise or the unequal length header. The complains are valid and most are small things that subaru could have done better at no additional cost. Assuming that he bought the sti "just to look cool" is silly; why would someone downgrade (from a comfort/luxury standpoint) from a TL to a performance econobox unless they knew what they were getting into?

 

Uh... you guys are weird. I never said that I didn't like my car cause it does have the accesories that the TL does. As a matter of fact, I have always wanted an STi and I have followed WRC for many years now. All I was saying was that it is a change going from "luxury" to "performance" but I am loving every second of it... Don't get me wrong but the STi is by far the BEST car I'ved had and one of my dream cars. I could not be happier.

 

Yes the turbo they put in there is a bit small. That can be fixed with a few mods or changing the turbo completely if you are going for large power gains.

Yes it definitely needs an upgrade there. Supposedly people that buy the JDM pink springs say that those springs cure the float and "bouncing". The general concensus is that the springs the North American STis get are not stiff enough like the JDM counterparts.

Compared to what? Your heavily modded Eclipse? The STi can be made as fast or faster than your Eclipse. Obviously a stock car isn't going to be impressive when you've had a heavily modded car. The Evo AND Evo MR aren't going to be any better.

As for braking, there aren't many cars that will stop as fast as the STi. Once again you're probably comparing your modded Eclipse's brakes with aftermarket pads to a stock cars equipment. The Brembos are more than capable, it is just the pads that need replacing for serious track use.

The Eclipse seats were crap too. If the Evo's seats are anything like the Recaros I sat in at the track, then the Evo definitely has nicer seats than the STi.

Well a stock STi is "godly fast" compared to a stock Eclipse and pretty damn fast compared to everything in its price range. Put as much money into the STi as you did your Eclipse and then see how "slow" it is.

By the way, this would be like me comparing my uncle's 9 second modified (and streetable) Chevy Nova to your "superfast modded Eclipse" and saying don't buy an Eclipse because they are slow.

I would agree with the MR comment. In that recent MotorTrend test the MR looks to be a great car for the track - as long as you don't mind getting shafted for MSRP or worse.

The 2005 STi is more than a match for the standard Evos, including on the track, so it really comes down to preference.

BTW Don't get me wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but it sounds strange to knock the performance of a stock car because your "heavily modded car" was so much better AND THEN recommend another stock car of nearly equal performance. Go figure.

 

Oh also, I found this posting from you over on ImprezaWrxSti:

I'm curious as to what suddenly changed your mind?

 

No one is arguing that the Evo is a fantastic car, cheaper to make fast, and has faster track times. Granted, the 05 is supposedly a match for the standard Evo and only falls to the Evo MR.

I have no problem with your opinion and I agree with a lot of what you said.

I get what you are trying to say but a Civic is not a performance car, while the STi is. The STi and Evo can stop, accelerate faster, and handling better than some exotic cars, no stock Civic can ever claim that? The STi and Evo don't need major upgrades like a Civic or a Corolla or a Focus to be competent on the track.

I would never think the STi (or Evo) is the end all be all of motoring performance. My dream car is a 911 GT2 but that is a little out of my price range, so the STi is the next best thing. If I didn't live in such a cold climate I would probably buy a C6 (the "Z06 version" or whatever they are going to call it.)

Oh I know what you are saying. My STi doesn't feel fast anymore but my wife, who rarely drives it, finds it incredibly fast. She also drives a Civic daily to and from work.

The point I was making though is if the STi doesn't feel fast to you, a stock Evo won't feel fast either. Even the MR will fall short of your expectations. From what I gather you are looking more into something like a Cobra or Z06. The Cobra is very cheap to mod.

I'm not saying it is a better motor. We all know the 4g63 has been around forever, has an iron block, and tuners have had a decade plus of experience with it. The EJ25 is still new and quite possibly may not have the potential of the 4g63, but it is far from being a piece of crap.

By the way, do you know why the stock Evo has more potential? For the most part is because it comes with a much larger turbo.


But what is the point? I can make a Civic hatchback run 11s for relatively cheap. I still wouldn't want that over a STi or Evo. Just as I wouldn't want a STi or Evo over a 911 Carrera S if I had a choice.

Also I didn't buy my car to run in straight lines. The STi and Evo are excellent track platforms to start building off. I don't know if the same can be said about the Eclipse.

Who are you talking to? I never disputed the two things you said above. Perhaps someone else did but I know better.

Don't take this the wrong way but I think you should have done more research because it appears the Evo and STi aren't the type of car you want. Maybe the Evo MR would satisfy you but the standard Evo is no faster or better handling than an 05 STi. The only thing it has over the STi right now is fantastic tuning potential.

By the way, I would never buy an Evo, even if they were available in Canada. The interior looks like it came from the 80s, it isn't as good as the STi for driving around town, and Mitsubishi isn't really in a great position at the moment.

Since you haven't been hanging around ImprezaWrxSti very much, do yourself a favour and check these videos out:
http://www.gofastpilots.com/infineon_video_102304.htm

The show just how capable the STi can be when in the right hands and setup correctly.