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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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fueling at the pump

two questions really here: 1. has anyone noticed a difference putting in less than 91 octane in your wrx?? 2. on several occasions, the gas pump has kicked off with the auto stop, and gas has spilled out. this has never happened with any of my other cars. i guess i could slow the pumping when i hit >11 gal. but wondering what ur experiences are. It may sound dumb, but i would appreciate a few honest answers. the rest can flame on.....
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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1.) Less then 91 octane is bad for your car and should only be used in emergency situtations. using less then 91 may cause the engine to start pinging, which can cause long term damage. You will also notice decreased performance on less then premium gas.


2.) I usually let the pump sit for about 10 seconds or more before I pull it out, shaking it all the while so I don't spill any. If you are still spilling gas, then I don't know what to say.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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it spills out right b4 it cuts off, mebbe i should pump slower right at cutoff then??
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 808subaru
it spills out right b4 it cuts off, mebbe i should pump slower right at cutoff then??
I can only think that the breather tube is somehow pluged. The one that goes to the fuel tank. Do you have an aftermarket in tank fuel pump? And if so is the breather tube connected properly

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On my previous cars and dropping the gas tank i noticed a tube that was used to let air escape when fueling up. This prevented the bubbles in the tank that would presurize when it started getting full.

I theorize that the pressure of air trapped in the top of the tank pushed the gas out of the tank becuase it had to buble to the surface so to speak. Thus it spilled.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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thanks 4 the info. it's all stock, so maybe it's defective?? it seems like an isolated case to me so far...
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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thanks 4 the info. it's all stock, so maybe it's defective?? it seems like an isolated case to me so far...
Possibly, you could always ask your dealer about this if its a constant thing. I'm sure their service department has an answer.
Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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Make sure that you put the nozzle in the tank as far as it will go. That will make it stop a bit sooner and should keep it from spilling.
Old Jul 13, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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1. Never put in less than 91 Octane. It's usually only $.20 more per gallon, which is like $2 per fill up. You can afford the cost difference in $2 increments right?

2. I'm not sure on your issue. If you want, I could move this thread to 'Maintenance and Warranty" and you might get better responses there. I didn't move it yet because it's right on that line of General/Maint As for me, mine stops when it's full, and for some reason that seems to be 13.9xx gallons every time No overflows though.
Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Origami posted by 808subaru
1. has anyone noticed a difference putting in less than 91 octane in your wrx?
You'll notice a difference alright but not what you were expecting.
Origami posted by Vishnu
The knock control system is active from ~2000rpm to ~6000RPM, give or take a few 100rpm based upon application/mapping. It's also active above moderate load (under boost). It is very unusual to hear audible ping within those conditions with deltadash consistently showing no drop-outs in knock correction. It may be possible that the knock correction isn't taking out enough timing do totally surpress knock but I have yet to see the detection ability of the system to be amiss.

BTW, if you try filling up a stock car with 87 octane, it will ping instantly, pull back timing, send the ignition advance multiplier well below 4 which will make the car run on its rich fuel map. For the most part, it will run ping-free. But every now and then, it will try to advance back to normal. And in doing so, it may ping audibly.
When your ECU switches to the rich fuel map (which helps protect the engine from detonation) it runs pig rich. If you think your fuel economy is bad now...

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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thanks for the replies. I've never actually put in less than 91 octane, it was just a question, i got what i needed from all of the great i-clubbers, thanks y'all!!!
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