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Originally posted by samurai
RichQY,
For Mitsu, it wasn't fraud with the Jp govt. It was basically consumer fraud. They covered up thousands of recallable defects on their autos in the 90's and 80's. Saw it on the Japanese news last year. Like I said before, there was a police raid on Mitsu auto's HQ and they were bringing out boxes and boxes of memos and documents. Sorta blew away my previously conceived image of Mitsubishi. Like the EVO and all, but Mitsu's image is tarnished.
Tim
RichQY,
For Mitsu, it wasn't fraud with the Jp govt. It was basically consumer fraud. They covered up thousands of recallable defects on their autos in the 90's and 80's. Saw it on the Japanese news last year. Like I said before, there was a police raid on Mitsu auto's HQ and they were bringing out boxes and boxes of memos and documents. Sorta blew away my previously conceived image of Mitsubishi. Like the EVO and all, but Mitsu's image is tarnished.
Tim
Here is a news article from 2000 talking about it. If you look towards the bottom, you will see that Subaru fans shouldn't be too quick to judge Mitsubishi.
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Originally posted by RedBEan
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
Here is a news article from 2000 talking about it. If you look towards the bottom, you will see that Subaru fans shouldn't be too quick to judge Mitsubishi.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
Here is a news article from 2000 talking about it. If you look towards the bottom, you will see that Subaru fans shouldn't be too quick to judge Mitsubishi.
If I understood this correctly. Mitsubishi fixed a handful of cars and concealed the problems both to the public and to the govt. On the other hand, Subaru reportedly repaired 900,000 vehicles but without the govt's knowledge. I'd say Subaru get props for at least repairing the cars. Mitsu hid the info from both the CONSUMERS and the govt according to the article. At least Subaru had the intelligence to quietly correct the defect on their cars. Mitsu kept quiet about their defects to everybody and it took them 2 years plus an internal audit to realize that they needed to look at those customer complaints.
The key quote:
"In a report submitted to the Transport Ministry, Mitsubishi said it hid complaints from car owners and information on possible defects that it was supposed to report to the Japanese government. "
That sorta soured my view of Mitsubishi...
My 0.02 as always,
Tim
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"Mitsubishi Motors Corp. admitted that it systematically concealed customers' complaints in Japan for more than 20 years and that some top managers knew about the coverup."
20 years..
ouch..
"Mitsubishi also said it would recall an additional 88,000 vehicles in Japan to conduct a variety of repairs, after a recall last month of 532,000 vehicles nationwide. The company also announced a recall of about 200,000 vehicles in overseas markets"
and 900,000 for entire Subarus in years..
just how many of them weren't recalled?
i thought the GM and Ford recalls were bad...
20 years..
ouch..
"Mitsubishi also said it would recall an additional 88,000 vehicles in Japan to conduct a variety of repairs, after a recall last month of 532,000 vehicles nationwide. The company also announced a recall of about 200,000 vehicles in overseas markets"
and 900,000 for entire Subarus in years..
just how many of them weren't recalled?
i thought the GM and Ford recalls were bad...
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Originally posted by cary
as for stististi, and anyone else who feels subaru has come out on top already, dont kid yourselves. mitsu of america released a bare bones evo for two reasons: one, to establish the market, and two, to keep it under $29,000. you can bet your buckle that mitsu is already working on bringing the full-fledged jdm spec ralliart evo once the market is there. in fact, dont be surprised to see it within a year's release of the US sti here.
as for stististi, and anyone else who feels subaru has come out on top already, dont kid yourselves. mitsu of america released a bare bones evo for two reasons: one, to establish the market, and two, to keep it under $29,000. you can bet your buckle that mitsu is already working on bringing the full-fledged jdm spec ralliart evo once the market is there. in fact, dont be surprised to see it within a year's release of the US sti here.
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Originally posted by RedBEan
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
Here is a news article from 2000 talking about it. If you look towards the bottom, you will see that Subaru fans shouldn't be too quick to judge Mitsubishi.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
Here is a news article from 2000 talking about it. If you look towards the bottom, you will see that Subaru fans shouldn't be too quick to judge Mitsubishi.
How scandalous. They actually fixed customer's cars and got fined 1.4 million yen (what is that, about 93 cents?) for not telling the government about something that was not exactly a secret anyway. As opposed to Mitsubishi, who actively concealed defects from everybody for 2 full decades.
If you ask me, it's still pretty easy for Subie fans to judge Mitsubishi's corporate character to be a bit wanting.
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