http://www.pbase.com/mattjkphoto/2003_la_autoshow

 

Thanks!

Totally agree about the Evo, how SAD. Looks like a $13K car
with a bunch of mods.

Matt

 

even though it looks like the evo8 it's not called the EVO8. it's called the evolution, and it does look like crap. it looks cheap. obviously they are trying to increase profits and pack a lot of trivial features that they think americans will want (and buy) and they left out the expensive stuff no one really cares about. they included the eclipse turbo engine that we are already familiar with, and left out the real evo motor.

i'm glad subaru, even though they had to make cutbacks for the STi/WRX, hasn't given us the same lower quality car that the US evolution has. sure, we don't have the nicer seats, and we have less HP, but that has more to do with US safety regulations and our poor fuel grade than with cost effectiveness. i am curious to see the STi and more importantly, what all the magazines have to say when comparing the US spec evolution and STi. i can almost guarantee that they are all going to say that the evolution feels cheaper than the STi.

but still, people are going to buy the evolution like crazy because of mitsubishi's huge marketing scheme. by the end of the year, everyone who is into cars, or watches tv will know what the evolution is. i still get people asking what kind of car i am driving, and the thing has been out for 2 years now. plus the evolution has features that people want like 4 way adjustable HID projectors, sunroof, recaro seats, etc. and things sound impressive like "170mph speedo", but when you look at it, it's really crappy looking and small. not impressive.

it's like one of those infomericals where it looks all awesome on the ad and then when you get it it's just not as nice as you thought it would be. go check it out, you'll see. i'm not a DSM hater. i was all hyped about the evolution until i saw it. 271hp, etc, etc. i'm sure it's fast with great handling, but in all honesty it really feels like you are sitting in an OZ rally lancer, not one of the worlds greatest sport sedans. kind of sad.

 

i don't know what it's based on, but it feels like the US lancer. but then again, the japanese EVO wasn't exactly a luxury sedan either. i don't know what the deal with the engine is. probably cheaper or something.

 

in other news...the STi announcement will be made in about an hour or 2. can't wait!

 

Front Mount Intercooler?
Hollow Camshafts?
Twin-Scroll Turbocharger?
Peaks at 19psi at 3500rpm and is up to 16psi at 6500?
Redlines at 7000rpm?

This doesn't sound like the DSM engine to me. Eric m, get your facts straight....

 

FMI? Neon Turbo has one, big deal. 1986 Starion, big deal.

Hollow Camshafts? 1987 Toyota Supra, big Deal.

Twin Scroll Turbo? 1991 MR2 Turbo with Twin Entry exhaust housing, big deal.

People are going around like this is all new technology that
is the end all be all of automotive magicary.

Matt

 

19psi --> 16psi? Sounds like a crappy boost control system to me.

7000rpm redline? 9000rpm vtec.

I've never liked Mitsubishi, so take me comments with a grain
of salt...

Matt

 

http://impreza.subaru.com/microsites...pecs_popup.jsp