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Old 02-24-2007, 03:57 PM
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BBKs don't make you stop "quicker" unless your previous brake system didn't haev the brake torque needed to lockup your wheels. And if it didn't, you had garbage pads.
if you add more pots you will be able to cover more surface area on the rotor itself which in return make you stop quicker
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:01 PM
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Just get something like this...

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...mhtml?id=50572
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
if you add more pots you will be able to cover more surface area on the rotor itself which in return make you stop quicker
Uhh.... no.
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:04 PM
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so a 1 piston caliper stops as good as a 12 pistons caliper..... RIGHTTTTTT
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:07 PM
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I'm going to do you a favor and tell you to go read the Stoptech white papers before you continue to argue this with me.
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
I'm going to do you a favor and tell you to go read the Stoptech white papers before you continue to argue this with me.
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:23 PM
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Or, you can continue to look like a moron. Up to you. But don't take my word for it, go ask Stoptech. You are incorrect; nobody's car stops faster with upgraded brakes unless your previous brakes couldn't lockup the wheels. Period.
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:30 PM
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Kevin's point is that once you lock up the wheels, braking isn't a matter of the brakes anymore, but of your tires. Locking up the wheels takes just as much pressure whether you have 1 pot or 12 pots (assuming same pad compound). 12 pots just makes it easier for the driver to apply the pressure.

What more pad surface area gives you is better cooling and it makes it easier to apply the brakes. In that regard, they are very useful.
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Hmm... i just read the white pages... more pistons = higher clamping force = better braking.....

im still confused on what you are argueing
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Originally Posted by newyorkreload
That's the upgrade Ryball went with. He says they are super awesome at stopping the car, but sadly, they don't help his rear wiper work.
f0k3r!!!

The 4-pots rule. The stock pads are good, too. I did a lot of research and decided not to bother with the rears. I have some HPS' back there and they do just fine. If you are doing the 2-pots, realize it is just for looks.

Hate to say it, but I got them from Chaplins. What can I say, they were cheap.
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No, my poitn was that he was arguing with me without knowing what he was talking about. But Nick is basically right about how brakes work.
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Originally Posted by nKoan
Kevin's point is that once you lock up the wheels, braking isn't a matter of the brakes anymore, but of your tires. Locking up the wheels takes just as much pressure whether you have 1 pot or 12 pots (assuming same pad compound). 12 pots just makes it easier for the driver to apply the pressure.

What more pad surface area gives you is better cooling and it makes it easier to apply the brakes. In that regard, they are very useful.

I know that your brakes are only as good as your tires, but he is acting like adding extra pistons to your calipers is pointless and shouldn't be done, which is retarded
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
Hmm... i just read the white pages... more pistons = higher clamping force = better braking.....

im still confused on what you are argueing
more pistons = more clamping force is true, if everything else is equal.

More clamping force = more "stopping power" is NOT TRUE. Your best total braking distance only requires enough brake torque to reach lockup of your tires. Any more brake torque than that does not help you to stop, it just makes it easier to lockup the wheels.

If I throw some garbage all-seasons on an STi, is it going to stop faster than my hoopty OBS if I have good pads and Hoosiers? Not a chance, even though my car has a total of 4 pistons and the STi has 18.
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Today is much more automotive informative then normal, tomorrow can we talk about camber, toe, and wheel aliment?

...and for the record, work sucks today.
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
I know that your brakes are only as good as your tires, but he is acting like adding extra pistons to your calipers is pointless and shouldn't be done, which is retarded
Wrong. You said that the car "stopped quicker" after adding the BBK, and that was totally false.
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