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There's that word again... "initial" quality. Furthermore, I never made any quality claims about Ford. I only said that I have had very good experiences with their products. You were the one who fired the first shot saying that you were "laughing at" me. If you were going to snicker at my opinions, then I was going to laugh at your opinions, your spelling, and your worthless J.D. Power initial quality awards. Besides that, the articles you posted actually had several different Ford products listed right along with GM stuff.
BTW... stop being so damn sensitive about your inability to communicate using the English language. If you're going to dish it out, then expect it in return and don't go cry in a corner about it. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Go borrow a pair from Britney Spears. She doesn't need them.
BTW... stop being so damn sensitive about your inability to communicate using the English language. If you're going to dish it out, then expect it in return and don't go cry in a corner about it. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Go borrow a pair from Britney Spears. She doesn't need them.
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GM must be doing something right... Considering Toyota has a full size truck out, and now very very VERY cheap economy cars... yet still can't seem to catch GM
I guess it's not easy being #1
Ok.. so I can't spell, and you can't read... No where in that report does it say initial... not even once...
Now please pull foward to the second window
GM must be doing something right... Considering Toyota has a full size truck out, and now very very VERY cheap economy cars... yet still can't seem to catch GM
I guess it's not easy being #1
General Motors topped five of the 20 segments in Strategic Vision's 2006 Total Quality survey, including this Chevrolet HHR in the Small Multi-Function Vehicle segment.
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GM leads the most vehicle segments in Strategic Vision's Total Quality Index, measuring the ownership experience.
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The Ford Fusion led the Medium Car segment in its first year on the market.
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The Chevrolet Corvette topped the Small Specialty Over $25,000 segment for the third year in a row, and was also the highest scoring in the Convertible Above $30,000 segment.
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The Dodge Charger was ranked the highest in the Large Car segment and was one of only two vehicles from DaimlerChrysler listed on the Total Quality Index.
BMW 7-Series
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet HHR
Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Chevrolet Silverado Classic 2500HD
Chevrolet Silverado 3500
Dodge Charger
Dodge Magnum
Ford Fusion
Honda Civic
Honda Odyssey
Honda Ridgeline
Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Lexus IS
Lexus RX 350
Lexus RX 400h
MINI Cooper
Nissan Armada
Saturn Vue
Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Tacoma
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Toyota's Tacoma pickup truck was a repeat winner in the Compact Pickup segment.
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The MINI Cooper scored the highest in two segments for 2006—Convertibles Under $30,000 and Small Specialty Under $25,000.
General Motors topped all other automakers in the number of vehicles receiving the highest score in their category, according to the 2006 Total Quality Index (TQI) Awards from automotive consulting firm Strategic Vision.
The Total Quality Index was calculated based on responses from more than 29,000 buyers who bought 2006 models in October and November of 2005. Each year buyers are asked to rate all aspects of the ownership experience, from buying and owning to driving.
Strategic Vision has been calculating the TQI since 1995. "We're seeing many new or redesigned vehicles at the top of their segments," said Strategic Vision CEO Darrel Edwards. "These vehicles typically deliver more tangible and intangible emotional elements which are relevant to buyers."
Photo Gallery: Total Quality Winners
Although no single automaker dominated the awards this year, five of the 20 segments were led by vehicles from General Motors. Toyota topped four segments, while BMW and Honda each fielded three top-scoring vehicles. Domestic models and Japanese models scored highest in eight segments each, with European brands taking the last four.
"Overall the results show good news and bad news for the domestics, "said Daniel Gorrell, Strategic Vision vice president. "On the one hand, their efforts to beef up their car offerings are paying off, especially with bread-and-butter products like the Ford Fusion and Dodge Charger. On the other hand, the Japanese continue making inroads into the truck categories that the domestics used to own, winning six of the ten slots, vs. three for the domestics."
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by the Editors of MSN Autos
GM leads the most vehicle segments in Strategic Vision's Total Quality Index, measuring the ownership experience.
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The Ford Fusion led the Medium Car segment in its first year on the market.
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The Chevrolet Corvette topped the Small Specialty Over $25,000 segment for the third year in a row, and was also the highest scoring in the Convertible Above $30,000 segment.
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The Dodge Charger was ranked the highest in the Large Car segment and was one of only two vehicles from DaimlerChrysler listed on the Total Quality Index.
BMW 7-Series
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet HHR
Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Chevrolet Silverado Classic 2500HD
Chevrolet Silverado 3500
Dodge Charger
Dodge Magnum
Ford Fusion
Honda Civic
Honda Odyssey
Honda Ridgeline
Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Lexus IS
Lexus RX 350
Lexus RX 400h
MINI Cooper
Nissan Armada
Saturn Vue
Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Tacoma
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Toyota's Tacoma pickup truck was a repeat winner in the Compact Pickup segment.
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The MINI Cooper scored the highest in two segments for 2006—Convertibles Under $30,000 and Small Specialty Under $25,000.
General Motors topped all other automakers in the number of vehicles receiving the highest score in their category, according to the 2006 Total Quality Index (TQI) Awards from automotive consulting firm Strategic Vision.
The Total Quality Index was calculated based on responses from more than 29,000 buyers who bought 2006 models in October and November of 2005. Each year buyers are asked to rate all aspects of the ownership experience, from buying and owning to driving.
Strategic Vision has been calculating the TQI since 1995. "We're seeing many new or redesigned vehicles at the top of their segments," said Strategic Vision CEO Darrel Edwards. "These vehicles typically deliver more tangible and intangible emotional elements which are relevant to buyers."
Photo Gallery: Total Quality Winners
Although no single automaker dominated the awards this year, five of the 20 segments were led by vehicles from General Motors. Toyota topped four segments, while BMW and Honda each fielded three top-scoring vehicles. Domestic models and Japanese models scored highest in eight segments each, with European brands taking the last four.
"Overall the results show good news and bad news for the domestics, "said Daniel Gorrell, Strategic Vision vice president. "On the one hand, their efforts to beef up their car offerings are paying off, especially with bread-and-butter products like the Ford Fusion and Dodge Charger. On the other hand, the Japanese continue making inroads into the truck categories that the domestics used to own, winning six of the ten slots, vs. three for the domestics."
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BMW was listed as the top scoring brand, a feat the German company has managed seven of the last eight years. Volkswagen of America earned the top spot as best full-line corporation.
A number of vehicles were repeat winners in 2006, including the Chevrolet Corvette, MINI Cooper, Honda Odyssey, Nissan Armada and Toyota Tacoma.
Here are the 2006 Total Quality Index winners
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I give up. I don't know how many ways I can say the same damn thing. Obviously, I was referring to your retarded, meaningless J.D. Power studies.
To further repeat myself, I don't care what garbage award/study you copy and paste into this thread. With a couple exceptions (trucks, Corvettes), GM still builds pieces of **** that I would never own. The same applies, albeit to a lesser extent, to Ford. I like their trucks, most of the Mustangs, and the GT. I would drop dead before buying any vehicle other than the ones I listed from either manufacturer.
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To further repeat myself, I don't care what garbage award/study you copy and paste into this thread. With a couple exceptions (trucks, Corvettes), GM still builds pieces of **** that I would never own. The same applies, albeit to a lesser extent, to Ford. I like their trucks, most of the Mustangs, and the GT. I would drop dead before buying any vehicle other than the ones I listed from either manufacturer.
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And apparently you aren't getting is what you are stating is just your opinion, based off things your "experience" I say that in quotes because in reality you know nothing when it comes to the car would since you and I both haven't even driven 1/5th of the cars in this world.... While these people do it for a living, so the fact that they completely disagree with your lack of hard evidence and throwing nothing but personal opinion.. yet every report sides with me, and like I said... GM is number 1 for a reason and ford is barely above... vw... so you really can give up, because you lose
GM > Ford in everything....
^^^ need a say more?
GM > Ford in everything....
^^^ need a say more?
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
And apparently you aren't getting is what you are stating is just your opinion, based off things your "experience" I say that in quotes because in reality you know nothing when it comes to the car would since you and I both haven't even driven 1/5th of the cars in this world.... While these people do it for a living, so the fact that they completely disagree with your lack of hard evidence and throwing nothing but personal opinion.. yet every report sides with me, and like I said... GM is number 1 for a reason and ford is barely above... vw... so you really can give up, because you lose
GM > Ford in everything....
^^^ need a say more?
GM > Ford in everything....
^^^ need a say more?
ya know 1 thing that has always struck me as odd.. and im not trying to pick sides here.. but the only way ford or the mustang has ever been able to compete with the camaro/transam/vette was to SC their cars...while chevy has been able to keep their cars NA and compete/beat the mustang.. weird!
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No, the one that was such great car that they sold like crap and Chevy quit making it. Leave it to competition from Ford to keep lackluster Chevy cars in production. We would likely not have a Corvette right now if Ford hadn't had the T-Bird back in the mid-50's and the Camaro wouldn't be coming back if Ford had turned the Mustang into a front driver back around '93 or wasn't presently producing Mustangs... plain and simple fact. Get over it.
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Originally Posted by midnitewrx02
ya know 1 thing that has always struck me as odd.. and im not trying to pick sides here.. but the only way ford or the mustang has ever been able to compete with the camaro/transam/vette was to SC their cars...while chevy has been able to keep their cars NA and compete/beat the mustang.. weird!
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wanna know what else is a plan and simple fact... the camaro didn't sell as bad as you play it to be... it was the second best selling car in it's class when it went out of production... But Ford use to be the second highest automanufact. what happened there? What is this huge loan that they just had to take out to save face? why are they in third? Why can't Ford beat GM in anything? Why did the Chevy c6 zo6 just win car of the year on fifth gear beating out the brand new porsche 911... Why can GM make a pushrod motor put down just as much power as a 5.4Liter Supercharged motor?
So according to you, the only reason GM is who it is, is because ford made cars that are better then GM cars... yet GM is the #1 automanufacturer, and beats ford any day in performance... Hell even the Cobalt Time Trial cars absolutely rip and are damn hard to beat... But I guess the Cavalier went out of production because ford made the focus the canning of these cars has NOTHING to do with bob lutz becoming part of GM at that time... it's all ford...
So i guess gm should fund the loan ford just had to take out since they are in the biggest **** holes of all **** holes, since if it wasn't for ford gm would be out of business!!
So according to you, the only reason GM is who it is, is because ford made cars that are better then GM cars... yet GM is the #1 automanufacturer, and beats ford any day in performance... Hell even the Cobalt Time Trial cars absolutely rip and are damn hard to beat... But I guess the Cavalier went out of production because ford made the focus
the canning of these cars has NOTHING to do with bob lutz becoming part of GM at that time... it's all ford...So i guess gm should fund the loan ford just had to take out since they are in the biggest **** holes of all **** holes, since if it wasn't for ford gm would be out of business!!
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Originally Posted by iceman302
Just different approaches to making power... nothing more.
But now to defend ford... GM is using 1.1 Liters more then Ford was using, and like the saying goes "There is no replacement for displacement"
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But now to defend ford... GM is using 1.1 Liters more then Ford was using, and like the saying goes "There is no replacement for displacement"[/QUOTE]
I've never disagreed with that mantra...
But now to defend ford... GM is using 1.1 Liters more then Ford was using, and like the saying goes "There is no replacement for displacement"[/QUOTE]
I've never disagreed with that mantra...
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I'm definitely a proponent for anything that adds power, especially big cubes AND a power adder!
On that note, I really hope that GM produces the King Kong Z06. I wonder if that thing will ever be produced now that the Ford GT is no longer?
On that note, I really hope that GM produces the King Kong Z06. I wonder if that thing will ever be produced now that the Ford GT is no longer?
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