True dat, plus it's a camaro

 

Regardless of whether it was poor design or poor marketing, the mullet comment still applies and the car still got ****-canned.

 

yes, and I'm sure 100% of mustang drivers drive it due to history and "performance" rather than the fact that every other person has them and therefore they must be cool. mustangs aren't a popularity contest car or anything

 

:rotfl: BAHAHAHAHAHA wrong... GM canned the camaro because they signed a deal with a canadian automaker for a 7 year contract... the camaro's wheren't selling as well as they where in the previous years and gm wanted to start building the camaro back in the U.S. well the only way they could do that was break the contract(2002...) which was the last year they made the camaro... and guess when the contract expired.... 2009... odd... the camaro is being reborn in 2009...


And I laugh at you thinking the mustang is the reason gm is bringing the camaro back... because look how AWESOME ford is doing financially.... they are dropping faster then paris hiltons panties, i'd say britney spears but she doesn't wear any... How big of a loan did Ford just have to take out to try to save face? while GM is starting to climb back up and never let toyota pass them and is still the #1 auto manufacturer in the world tieing toyota in #1 in quality, and I can garuntee gets #1 in quality next year...

 

http://www.ls1speed.com/movies/jugga964.WMV

and like i said... still not impressed....


Stock bottom end(cast pistons... high compression)... stock heads... bolt on camaro with nitrous and a cam...

 

You really need to stop reading those supermarket tabloids if you think everything you stated is true.

 

Tell me about it; if that weren't the case, we might still be able to buy new Falcon Futura coupes.

 

I got talking with a buddy that works at a ford dealer that had one purchased and the guy brought it back for work because it was so slow for what it was supposed to be. They got checking and found that the electronic throttle was out of calibration and because this guy bought so much from them (mostly diesle trucks for his biz) they retuned it to be more responsive than stock. I was told it was a night and day difference. Apparently the throttle is set up to keep idiots from killing themselves and has a horrible delay on it. I've heard this complaint from a lot of people who own electronic throttle vehicles. Why don't they make better driving rules or encorage real driving lessens instead. Or it could be just a pile he fed me. But i agree the car needs a bad diet.

 

Yeah FORD suck

 

please tell me what was false??

 

The most glaringly obvious part was the claim of GM being number one quality and then the guarantee that they would have it again next year was the part that really had me rolling in the aisles. Exactly what is your source? Not that Ford has a phenomenal reputation for building perfect vehicles, but I never claimed they did. In fact, I don't recall ever saying that GM products suck. I actually like the Corvettes, especially the Z06, and their new trucks are lightyears better than their older models. Still, to claim that GM's build quality is better than the other domestic manufacturers is a joke and then to claim that they're on par with Toyota is even more hilarious. I'm betting that you probably know a lot of people who have had nothing but problems with their Fords and nothing but roses with their GM products. I've experienced exactly the opposite. I've owned a dozen Fords and have never had anything worse than the occasional alternator or fuel pump fail. On the other hand, I know a ton of people who have had nothing but problems with their GM's. It all boils down to personal experience.

 

guess J.D. Power and Associates must not know what they are talking about considering they gave the Platnium award to Toyota, and the Gold to hmm... i must not be reading it right, but uhh... GM?? ya that's what it looks like to me...

Then you go look at the 2007 GM's and see how insanely nice they are compared to the 06's....

then when you go into google... and type "Toyota's Quality"

you get numerous reports like this...

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60501002/1041

toyota is trying to mass produce to pass up GM in the #1 automaker, and guess what their build quality and reliability are hurting because of this...

So again, I fail to see why you are rolling in the isles laughing....

 

J.D. Power ranks vehicles for INITIAL quality. There ratings don't say a damn thing about longevity or reliability.

I already said that the '07 GM's (their pickups) are much improved and that I finally like what they have done with them, especially the interior.

I'm not sure what a "platnium" award is. Is that the British equivalent of platinum just like they say "aluminium"?

You also said that I apparently stated that I was rolling in the "isles". I can only assume from your use of "platnium" that you meant the British Isles. If you're going to quote somebody or restate something someone previously said, the least you can do is learn how to copy the correct spelling. I hope that your judgment of quality is at least rated "platnium", unlike your spelling.

 

i thought we where talking about quality, not personal attacks... But when the company you tried to compare GM against doesn't even show as a blip, I would result in personal attacks as well...

To continue to make you look like a stupid... Here is another report about how GM and Toyota Dominated the charts while ford... wait who's ford?

hmm how about this report

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article....tentid=4020223

No initial quality there.... infact that survey is straight from the buyers mouths...


P.S. this is a forum, if you are that **** about someone's spelling... Please get a life

 

Oh... and P.P.S....

Before you talk **** about something...

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...df/2006082.pdf

please know wtf you are talking about.... scroll down for yourself and you will see that JD Power and Assosciate give out Platinum awards... and efff u werez complianing abouuut iet becuase fo teh speleng yuo are a sad inividual