Avoid Tuning By Paul @ DBTuned
02-06-2009, 07:14 AM
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Actually I think he was more defending Ed as he was stating that if people are referring to Ed's software being easy to manipulate that so are all dyno's which he is correct in stating.
As I said he is 100% correct, I know of several shops using Mustang dyno's whose numbers pretty much replicate those of a Dyno-Jet, did it come that way from Mustang hell no they changed either the parasitics file or the pressure ratio to bring their numbers inline with what used to be perceived as the industry standard.
FWIW I don't think any of the Nor Cal tuners mess around with their readings too appease their customers, I know it's not been done here other than the time I wanted to know how it could be done and see if I could hit 1000whp on a NA 350z one night (1037whp stock Z FTW!)
Mike
As I said he is 100% correct, I know of several shops using Mustang dyno's whose numbers pretty much replicate those of a Dyno-Jet, did it come that way from Mustang hell no they changed either the parasitics file or the pressure ratio to bring their numbers inline with what used to be perceived as the industry standard.
FWIW I don't think any of the Nor Cal tuners mess around with their readings too appease their customers, I know it's not been done here other than the time I wanted to know how it could be done and see if I could hit 1000whp on a NA 350z one night (1037whp stock Z FTW!)
Mike
i think it was the day we traded drive shafts.
02-06-2009, 07:24 AM
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Mike has used my dyno and I can't recall him saying my dyno was ****ed up.
Then again, we were probably drinking.
One thing to remember:
Torque has a physical measurement that is used to calculate horsepower.
HP is a contrived number, derived from thin air.
Notice, there are torque wrenches, yet no horsepower wrenches.
02-06-2009, 08:32 AM
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This thread became ridiculous...
OP can post his review and tell people what he thinks and Paul can of course deal with it.
All you fanbois in between trying to discredit, silence, and scare the OP out of this thread are a joke. You rush to smother him and then bash Ed for tuning his car...
Paul is a great dude, he doesn't need the fanbois discrediting, silencing, and scaring someone that takes issue or leaves a bad review. Paul is more than smart enough to deal with his own conflict and EVERYONE even the OP knows and posted that he's a good guy.
Everyone makes mistakes, I wish the OP had given Paul the chance to know and fix his, but he didn't which sucks. But why bash the next guy the OP goes to? Bad form.
OP can post his review and tell people what he thinks and Paul can of course deal with it.
All you fanbois in between trying to discredit, silence, and scare the OP out of this thread are a joke. You rush to smother him and then bash Ed for tuning his car...
Paul is a great dude, he doesn't need the fanbois discrediting, silencing, and scaring someone that takes issue or leaves a bad review. Paul is more than smart enough to deal with his own conflict and EVERYONE even the OP knows and posted that he's a good guy.
Everyone makes mistakes, I wish the OP had given Paul the chance to know and fix his, but he didn't which sucks. But why bash the next guy the OP goes to? Bad form.
02-06-2009, 09:16 AM
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This thread became ridiculous...
OP can post his review and tell people what he thinks and Paul can of course deal with it.
All you fanbois in between trying to discredit, silence, and scare the OP out of this thread are a joke. You rush to smother him and then bash Ed for tuning his car...
Paul is a great dude, he doesn't need the fanbois discrediting, silencing, and scaring someone that takes issue or leaves a bad review. Paul is more than smart enough to deal with his own conflict and EVERYONE even the OP knows and posted that he's a good guy.
Everyone makes mistakes, I wish the OP had given Paul the chance to know and fix his, but he didn't which sucks. But why bash the next guy the OP goes to? Bad form.
OP can post his review and tell people what he thinks and Paul can of course deal with it.
All you fanbois in between trying to discredit, silence, and scare the OP out of this thread are a joke. You rush to smother him and then bash Ed for tuning his car...
Paul is a great dude, he doesn't need the fanbois discrediting, silencing, and scaring someone that takes issue or leaves a bad review. Paul is more than smart enough to deal with his own conflict and EVERYONE even the OP knows and posted that he's a good guy.
Everyone makes mistakes, I wish the OP had given Paul the chance to know and fix his, but he didn't which sucks. But why bash the next guy the OP goes to? Bad form.
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02-06-2009, 09:17 AM
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This thread became ridiculous...
OP can post his review and tell people what he thinks and Paul can of course deal with it.
All you fanbois in between trying to discredit, silence, and scare the OP out of this thread are a joke. You rush to smother him and then bash Ed for tuning his car...
Paul is a great dude, he doesn't need the fanbois discrediting, silencing, and scaring someone that takes issue or leaves a bad review. Paul is more than smart enough to deal with his own conflict and EVERYONE even the OP knows and posted that he's a good guy.
Everyone makes mistakes, I wish the OP had given Paul the chance to know and fix his, but he didn't which sucks. But why bash the next guy the OP goes to? Bad form.
OP can post his review and tell people what he thinks and Paul can of course deal with it.
All you fanbois in between trying to discredit, silence, and scare the OP out of this thread are a joke. You rush to smother him and then bash Ed for tuning his car...
Paul is a great dude, he doesn't need the fanbois discrediting, silencing, and scaring someone that takes issue or leaves a bad review. Paul is more than smart enough to deal with his own conflict and EVERYONE even the OP knows and posted that he's a good guy.
Everyone makes mistakes, I wish the OP had given Paul the chance to know and fix his, but he didn't which sucks. But why bash the next guy the OP goes to? Bad form.
I see it a little differently.
Ryan Stover is using a perceived problem to reduce my business; look at the title and his comments.
In addition, he accused me of theft/fraud, in a highly public manner.
When proved wrong, he offered no apology.
Had he come to me first, and we could not resolve said problem, his case would hold water.
Also, I do not see people "bashing" Tuner X, but rather contributing their experiences that directly related to similar stories.
The facts speak for themselves.
