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Originally Posted by dz
But how do you prove that? I could see a loop hole for those that did not even know the robbery was going to happen, but if you participate in the hold up you should fry just the same.
The trigger puller would be charged as first degree murder if the plan from the get go involved murder. If it was an on the spot reaction, second degree could be charged. One thing i've learned most about the law is how much it looks into the state of mind during the crime, and for some cases, the before and after of a crime.
If the look out guy knew about he gun, but didn't think it would be used possably could get away with 3rd degree, a.k.a. Recklessness. 1-2 years behind bars, 5+ parole.
If he went with "i didn't know about the gun" he's have to prove by what means the robbey would have taken palce first. and as always, prove the "Why"
once again, state of mind.
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Originally Posted by newyorkreload
I believe it's called 'Accomplice Liability'. He was committing an illegal act that had an end result of someone getting killed. The person that died was not an innocent party so that may help him in terms of sentencing but that's about it.
The Second degree charges come into play because his was a present and willing party.
But I personaly think the charges will be lowered to 'Man-3'.
I agree, I think they should have charge him with reckless endagerment and street raceing, then supend his license. But the state can press murder charges even if she won't.
The Second degree charges come into play because his was a present and willing party.
But I personaly think the charges will be lowered to 'Man-3'.
I agree, I think they should have charge him with reckless endagerment and street raceing, then supend his license. But the state can press murder charges even if she won't.
Is the example i gave the same idea as your scenario?
Agian, i thought manslaughter was when you ran over or hit someone. I promise to The Lord. If my friend goes to jail for longer then 2 years. I'll be fighting this case monthly. I am going into Forensics.
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Originally Posted by w1ngzer0
Boo. Thats like being blamed for a murder that happened next door. You go next door and ask the people for a cup of sugar. Then 2-3min later someone breaks in and shoots the neighbors. You try to help out and in the end result be charged with murder.
Is the example i gave the same idea as your scenario?
Agian, i thought manslaughter was when you ran over or hit someone. I promise to The Lord. If my friend goes to jail for longer then 2 years. I'll be fighting this case monthly. I am going into Forensics.
Is the example i gave the same idea as your scenario?
Agian, i thought manslaughter was when you ran over or hit someone. I promise to The Lord. If my friend goes to jail for longer then 2 years. I'll be fighting this case monthly. I am going into Forensics.
If you friend claims to not be the other party involved with the street race, it will come down to witness reports. What kind of car was the black one?
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I dunno. I only got limited information from my friend. He was only able to talk for a couple minutes. I can't stand the local news. They are douche bags 100 fold. But not 10 min after i was talking about it with my other friends. This black 97 eclipse kept going back and forth 3-4 times. Not in front of me but down sunrise around the area we were at. Then a black EVO sped away and a black STI did the same. Its confusing lol.
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are you new around here ?
I dont think thats breaking news :P
I dont think thats breaking news :P
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oh i know, he was the first person to make me feel unwelcome when i first signed up about a year ago.
Hey 90 year old men don't just hang out with any 20 year olds!! He has to be selective or he might look funny
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oh i know, he was the first person to make me feel unwelcome when i first signed up about a year ago.
there.. you should be all warm and fuzzy now
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Originally Posted by w1ngzer0
Boo. Thats like being blamed for a murder that happened next door. You go next door and ask the people for a cup of sugar. Then 2-3min later someone breaks in and shoots the neighbors. You try to help out and in the end result be charged with murder.
Is the example i gave the same idea as your scenario?
Agian, i thought manslaughter was when you ran over or hit someone. I promise to The Lord. If my friend goes to jail for longer then 2 years. I'll be fighting this case monthly. I am going into Forensics.
Is the example i gave the same idea as your scenario?
Agian, i thought manslaughter was when you ran over or hit someone. I promise to The Lord. If my friend goes to jail for longer then 2 years. I'll be fighting this case monthly. I am going into Forensics.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Too bad his wife & kids were not in the car.
i almost got into an accident tonight on 80W and im never street racing/freeway racing or passengering again. i wasnt driving, but i was in a passanger and to make a long story short...my friend went into 2nd instead of 4th and fish tailed on the freeway and he just let off the gas and steered...lucky for us there wasnt anyone around...he was racing a local iclubber that will be anyonomous. please keep it at the track folks
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the 22 year old said he was not racing with the guy. the guy in the mustang came up on him fast and was changing lanes and lost control. innocent till proven guilty. besides if he was racing him second-degree murder is way to harsh of a penalty.
the 22 year old said he was not racing with the guy. the guy in the mustang came up on him fast and was changing lanes and lost control. innocent till proven guilty. besides if he was racing him second-degree murder is way to harsh of a penalty.