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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by luktang
That is true. So Jess, how were you able to transport a handgun on a plane? I'm positive you have to declare it. I'm just curious (too) about the procedures.

all you have to do is declare it, have it in checked baggaged, and have it in an approved lock box locked up. again still easier than going through hawaii's classes and spending the money for it.
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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...On a side note I understand that a CCL is near impossible to obtain so what are the laws on carrying it out in the open on a holdster? Serious question now.
No open carry in Hawaii. You can legally have your gun in your home, place of business, gun range and place of sojurn (temporary living place, like a hotel) and in your car between any of those places. So, as far as HPD is concerned you can have your gun at work, but your employer can prohibit you from doing so.

Originally Posted by austinp02
+1 for Michigan, they pretty much have to give you a concealed weapons liscence if you apply and dont have a criminal record. I will be getting mine just to have it in case.
At least 2/3 of the states have a "shall issue" law, which means that they have to issue you a CCP unless they have a reason to deny the permit. Innocent until proven guilty, what a concept. Hawaii has a provision for concealed carry on the books, but no one ever gets a permit. On a side note, Vermont has NO gun laws, meaning that if you can legally own a firearm, you can do with it what you want, carry concealed, carry in your car, etc. Funny how Vermont's rate of gun related homicides is way below the national average. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vio...tates_by_state.

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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so i can have it in my car if I choose to?

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Sometimes I carry a metal pipe under my passenger seat. One end I wrap with duct tape for better grip. I have it just incase....I took it out once, and just seeing it got the message across to the other person. But If I was to get pulled over, and search... I'd be in trouble.
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Here's the real kicker. Hawaii law is gonna mandate that all ammunition must be purchased in-state. No more cheap ammo for us anymore. I like to fire, but only on occasion. My perma-roomate (polite way of saying wife) don't want guns in the house. I gotta go when someone volunteers their firearm (rifle).
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Haole-Pino
Sometimes I carry a metal pipe under my passenger seat. One end I wrap with duct tape for better grip. I have it just incase....I took it out once, and just seeing it got the message across to the other person. But If I was to get pulled over, and search... I'd be in trouble.
Just be careful, if a officer does a vehicle search, they may take you in. I've seen it happen. Hell, i used to take kendo, and one night some a-hole was honking at me and giving me the bird. So i tuned into my driveway, and he sat there in his car. I threw it in reverse and chased him. He was hiding on a side street. I get out of my car and ask him what was his "expletive" problem. He said i dind'nt signal. WTF? (I actually did, but you were tailing so close you probably didn't see my blinker). He comes out at me with his steering lock device, so i pull out my kendo stick. He goes, ohhh wanna fight b***h? I was like, yeah but I"m gonna mess you up with this. He thought it was a sword. Some neighbors called the cops, and they broke it up. Long story short, i was told even though i was coming back from practice, my shinai (kendo sword) is a weapon. I said it's a bamboo stick! They didn't arrest me, but said they could've. They later talked to me about how i could've pressed charges, but they guy was already on the ground, wining in pain like as he put it "a b***h".

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 4080wrx
so i can have it in my car if I choose to?
Only if you are between locations where you can legally have the firearm (gun range, home, work, etc.). So, if you go to the range and stop at the mall to pick up something on the way home, you're breaking the law. I'm not sure you could be caught for that (unless you leave your gun on the seat), but I would hate to have my car broken in to while I have guns in there. Not only would that add to the supply of unregistered firearms out there, but you might be on the hook for having the gun illegally in your car.
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Just be careful, if a officer does a vehicle search, they may take you in. I've seen it happen. Hell, i used to take kendo, and one night some a-hole was honking at me and giving me the bird. So i tuned into my driveway, and he sat there in his car. I threw it in reverse and chased him. He was hiding on a side street. I get out of my car and ask him what was his "expletive" problem. He said i dind'nt signal. WTF? (I actually did, but you were tailing so close you probably didn't see my blinker). He comes out at me with his steering lock device, so i pull out my kendo stick. He goes, ohhh wanna fight b***h? I was like, yeah but I"m gonna mess you up with this. He thought it was a sword. Some neighbors called the cops, and they broke it up. Long story short, i was told even though i was coming back from practice, my shinai (kendo sword) is a weapon. I said it's a bamboo stick! They didn't arrest me, but said they could've. They later talked to me about how i could've pressed charges, but they guy was already on the ground, wining in pain like as he put it "a b***h".
Yup, like the discussion about knives, it all comes down to intent and the ability to use something as a deadly weapon. If I'm coming back from a pig hunt with a 10" knife on my belt, I likely wouldn't get stopped. But, if I'm walking around downtown with a 10" "tactical" blade on my belt, it's a different story. Your shinai is a bamboo stick to me since I have no training in its use, but in your hands, it's a weapon.

If anyone HAS to have something in the car, make sure you don't do anything to it (like wrap the handle) that makes it look or function like a weapon. Keep something that would go in a car anyway, like a breaker bar (I keep one in the car for the extra leverage it affords over the tiny crowbar that comes with the car and I honestly need it for that). If a cop saw you brandishing a breaker bar, you can say that you were in fear for your life and you grabbed whatever was handy. If, however, you were swinging around a stick with spikes on it with a cord wrapped handle, the DA can argue that you kept a weapon in your car and you just couldn't wait to pull it out on someone. Those 2 scenarios are radically different in the eyes of the law and of a jury if it gets to that point.
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^^^ Agreed. My wife carries a 7 iron ( for loft, hehe) in her car, and she used to carry a 7 inch hunting knife in her purse, until she lost it. It's funny,
we used to travel and we'd forget it was in there. It made it through the x-ray and everything, i think once they confiscated my electric razor, but she could board with this massive "rambo" style blade. Gotta love airport security.
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
Question the first: what are the laws in Hawai'i for carrying knives? Specifically, are there blade length limitations, and what can or cannot be conceal-carried? Also, are switchblades/butterfly knives (balisongs) illegal? Are there any other "illegal" knives?

Question the second: what are the laws in Hawai'i for owning and carrying firearms? Specifically, what are the licensing and purchase requirements, what sort of firearms are illegal, and what are the laws regarding conceal-carry?

Question the third: has anyone ever eaten at Restaurant Serina and is it any good? It's an Okinawan restaurant on S. King off McCully, supposedly. I can't find any info on it online, but I did see a coupon in one of the tourist rags good for 1 free bottle of Orion beer with meal purchase, and I'm in the mood for some goya chanpuru.

Thank you folks! This post means nothing, really! I'm just... curious
Third question, susprisingly no. It sounds good, maybe some Okinawan's can come chime in here. I've only ever eaten at 2 okinawan restaurants. The one in dillingham center and the no closed one by elephant and castle in waimalu. Oh, and okinawan festival food is good too. I had an oki dog for the 1st time last festival. LOOVED IT!
Old Jun 20, 2008 | 01:53 AM
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Thanks guys! I ask about weapons laws to find out what the "competition" is packing moreso than what I "need", although I have kept a knife on me from time to time as a handy tool.
To be honest, I'd rather not get into street fights as much as possible, but forewarned is forearmed, right? Thanks for info, all!
808subaru: Chris, right? It's been a really long time. Thanks for being the only one to chime in on Serina
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Yeah, hey Ryan, it's been a while. We gotta go get a drink sometime!
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Yeah, hey Ryan, it's been a while. We gotta go get a drink sometime!
Chris, join us at Tsunami's tonight
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Originally Posted by Ross
Yup, like the discussion about knives, it all comes down to intent and the ability to use something as a deadly weapon. If I'm coming back from a pig hunt with a 10" knife on my belt, I likely wouldn't get stopped. But, if I'm walking around downtown with a 10" "tactical" blade on my belt, it's a different story. Your shinai is a bamboo stick to me since I have no training in its use, but in your hands, it's a weapon.

If anyone HAS to have something in the car, make sure you don't do anything to it (like wrap the handle) that makes it look or function like a weapon. Keep something that would go in a car anyway, like a breaker bar (I keep one in the car for the extra leverage it affords over the tiny crowbar that comes with the car and I honestly need it for that). If a cop saw you brandishing a breaker bar, you can say that you were in fear for your life and you grabbed whatever was handy. If, however, you were swinging around a stick with spikes on it with a cord wrapped handle, the DA can argue that you kept a weapon in your car and you just couldn't wait to pull it out on someone. Those 2 scenarios are radically different in the eyes of the law and of a jury if it gets to that point.
I never thought of it that way....Good point. My friend carries a bat with the words "The Great Equalizer" writen on it using a sharpie. It was a joke when he did it, but I should tell him to scratch that off



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