Ok, I don't wanna ask this because I don't want all the million of do a search, this has been beaten to death blah blah blah.

Realy this is the deal: I was going to go turbo so I never though I would need more effecient headers and I also tapped my stock ones for EGT. But now thinking about it. I might be worth it to get better headers. So. I was wondering if you guys can bring me up to speed on the borla header situation.

Which gen are we on? Do they still break? Where do you put an EGT probe if you use these headers....still cyl 3?
What kinda stock power gain have you guys been getting? Any CELs? Will they fit on an auto? Loss of low end torque?

Thanks guys..
-Neal

 

gen 4

they don't crack

they fit any 2.5L and 2.2L, not sure about 1.8

if they are worth it? i say yes, some people say no.

if you are AFI, you might research some equal lenght headers

a little more pricey, but i remember some thread about how much better they were.

i am gonna go with borla's when i have the $$$, the warranty is priceless, even the perf is a little lower.

 

I am curious about the CEL as well. Does anyone know if the newest ones cause a CEL?

-Wes

 

Ive seen about 4 cars with those headers and no CELs. Hope that helps.

Pete

 

OK i had them and this is my take on em. First off there bnot worth the money. Unless you want just sound. they do sound awsome. Performance wise you lose power wiuthout a doubt. i did get a check engine every 2500-3000 miles. just my 2 cents.

Erik

 

Not to mention your car sounded like a rattling *** with it on.

Pete

 

I've heard them on others car's and I love the sound. It has a nice deep growl to it. The cat-back sounds much like a turbo back.

 

but that was when i had my greddy. now i got the stromung.

Erik

 

hmmm, stromung

 

I've got a set waiting to go on my car. I'm also going to run them in a turbo application though. I needed something with a larger diameter and didn't want to spend the money on a set of equal length units which are double what the Borlas are.

 

You know you have to rub one out everytime you hear and see my car. lol.

Erik

 

they also fit the 1.8, i have them on my car

 

I just installed my borlas last week. Im not sure how 25RS 2NV
can say its a loss of performance. Don't listen to him. They are quite nice. Good noticeable performance and incredible sound. I did get a CEL and hopefully wil lhave it turned off friday. Anyway, i recommend them. They are great

 

On Eriks (25rs 2nv), there was a substancial power loss with the header. Maybe there was something wrong with his header or car, but it did not make the car anything but slower.

Pete