What turbo would you use??
i would recommend a deadbolt MONSTER P&P VF22.. ive heard nothing but good things about this turbo or any turbo for the matter with a MONSTER P&P.. im going with the monster vf22 because it has the top end i desire and with this option (P&P) has similar spool-up as a vf30/34..
BTW - deadbolt's website
BTW - deadbolt's website
Last edited by capa-don; Nov 10, 2003 at 06:49 AM.
u should check out the turbo xs stage 4. comes with a vf 30 and gives 375 horsepower at the crank. it cost 4 grand and if you put down another grand for a front mount intercooler you would have over 400 hp easily. im savin up for this package but im scared that if im running that much power that my tranny might blow.
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i would recommend a deadbolt MONSTER P&P VF22.. ive heard nothing but good things about this turbo or any turbo for the matter with a MONSTER P&P..
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Originally posted by Mosh
I went there........It sounds REALLY interesting.....Hell a VF30 Would probably be MORE than adequate for my goals with a P&P from there....Thanks for the info!!!!!I'm gonna search for some feedback on what people are getting dyno wise with these suckers............I've heard a VF22 spools by about 3300-3400rpm I wonder what it would do after the P&P?
I went there........It sounds REALLY interesting.....Hell a VF30 Would probably be MORE than adequate for my goals with a P&P from there....Thanks for the info!!!!!I'm gonna search for some feedback on what people are getting dyno wise with these suckers............I've heard a VF22 spools by about 3300-3400rpm I wonder what it would do after the P&P?

PS...I love my Monster TD04
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I guess it depends on what you want to do with your car. If it's going to autocross/rally, I doubt a laggy turbo would be worthwhile installing. If your going to drag race, depending upon what you've done to the block, you could run a big turbo/race gas/high boost or just run a big turbo/water injection/high boost to get you where you need to be.
But with 400 WHP...what tranny you going to use?
But with 400 WHP...what tranny you going to use?
Re: What turbo would you use??
Originally posted by Mosh
I'm looking for a bang for the buck turbo upgrade.......From what I've been seeing the vf22 looks really good........Makes good power and can be had for cheap.......But are there other options for my rex that I don't know about??I really want 300+whp....Mustang Cobras are pissin me off heh........
I'm looking for a bang for the buck turbo upgrade.......From what I've been seeing the vf22 looks really good........Makes good power and can be had for cheap.......But are there other options for my rex that I don't know about??I really want 300+whp....Mustang Cobras are pissin me off heh........
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Originally posted by El Supremo
Is IHI the only brand people use? How about APS, AVO, Garrett or PE.
Is IHI the only brand people use? How about APS, AVO, Garrett or PE.
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Scotty, dibs on you monster td04 when you buy a new turbo.
Scotty, dibs on you monster td04 when you buy a new turbo.
.....Sorry, Sa...I'm gonna keep it around for a spare...Used TD04's can be had cheap in the classifieds, if not here then on NASIOC....$200 is about the going rate...I've seen 'em given away for actual shipping charges....:O
Send it to Jerry, and be happy

I gotta start savin' for the RA gearset I'm gonna need...
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Jerry...aka deadbolt, is running a P&P VF22 right now and likes it...he even autocrossed with it recently
Thats cool!!!I wonder what rpm is he getting boost by???If he's getting boost somewhere around say 3000 or so that would be sweet!!!Your monster TD04, Getting boost by just 1583rpm is just wicked.......Talk about quick spool!!!!!!
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Save a lil bit of cash up, then go get a Garrett GT20 or GT22 with the ball bearing option. specs show a tad bit bigger than the VFs but with the modern areodynamics of Garrett turbos added with ball bearing design, you've got a pretty good setup there. On the point of welding a T-series flange, Garrett does make direct replacement drop in turbos (dont quote me just yet). Try calling Turbometrics or go to their website (link on i-club homepage) and their scroll down a bit on their price list and they list Garrett turbos at an introductory price which competes with many of IHI prices.
The Garrett GT20 is slightly bigger(45mm compressor,41.2mm turbine) than the biggest VF but the GT-series aerodynamics is very low drag/high efficency and is a nice size for 300-350 WHP with a great powerband
The Garrett GT22 is slightly larger than the GT20 but gives you the option of running with an internal or external wastegate
(sized 52mm comp, 50.3 turbine for internal and 59.41mm comp and 50.3 turbine.) This setup looks a bit better for higher power aspirations as you would have to get a new uppipe to incorporate an external WG as well as proper tuning.
Tranny is the next consideration but i'll save that for next time...
(I want an STi 6spd...still deciding...with or without DCCD)
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The Garrett GT20 is slightly bigger(45mm compressor,41.2mm turbine) than the biggest VF but the GT-series aerodynamics is very low drag/high efficency and is a nice size for 300-350 WHP with a great powerband
The Garrett GT22 is slightly larger than the GT20 but gives you the option of running with an internal or external wastegate
(sized 52mm comp, 50.3 turbine for internal and 59.41mm comp and 50.3 turbine.) This setup looks a bit better for higher power aspirations as you would have to get a new uppipe to incorporate an external WG as well as proper tuning.
Tranny is the next consideration but i'll save that for next time...
(I want an STi 6spd...still deciding...with or without DCCD)
JAN
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HHmmm Garrett GT20 or 22 eh??That sounds nice.......And the price seems right!!!I wasn't aware Garrett had a drop in turbo for the rex.And this is gonna sound real noobish of me BUT whats the difference in an external or internal waste gate???I know it's silly question.........But man it's 1am and I can't think straight.....Man I wonder where I could see some specs on that too!!!
I'm still Considering the same....I've got another thread goin in the transmission board about some options there as well......If you want to check it.....
(I want an STi 6spd...still deciding...with or without DCCD)
The wastegate's job is to regulate boost pressure. since the turbo is driven by the exhaust gases, the turbo's speed can be controlled by varying the amount of exhaust gas driving the turbo.
In many (almost all) factory applications, an internal wastegate is used. this type of wastegate is integrated into the turbo and is used when packaging is a concern. The diaphragm and actuator are also built into the turbo, making the package an all in one affair. internal wastegates are known for somewhat minor problems like boost creep and spiking due to slow reaction of the actuator, but with optimized downpipe designs creating better efficiency internally wastegated turbos work just fine.
Many aftermarket turbo setups will run with an external wastegate. used when speed and not packaging is the only concern, external wastegates have to be mounted onto the exhaust manifold right before the turbo. external wastegates are faster acting than internal wastegates and can hold more of a higher boost pressure (7-40 and up depending on spring pressure, size and quality).
that should do it for now...
JAN
In many (almost all) factory applications, an internal wastegate is used. this type of wastegate is integrated into the turbo and is used when packaging is a concern. The diaphragm and actuator are also built into the turbo, making the package an all in one affair. internal wastegates are known for somewhat minor problems like boost creep and spiking due to slow reaction of the actuator, but with optimized downpipe designs creating better efficiency internally wastegated turbos work just fine.
Many aftermarket turbo setups will run with an external wastegate. used when speed and not packaging is the only concern, external wastegates have to be mounted onto the exhaust manifold right before the turbo. external wastegates are faster acting than internal wastegates and can hold more of a higher boost pressure (7-40 and up depending on spring pressure, size and quality).
that should do it for now...
JAN
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