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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by numbr17
Welcome to the i-club and godspeed in Iraq. I have a lot of respect for you boys over there!
I'll 2nd that but I disagree with your statement claiming the Cobb reflash is the best tune. I am a proud owner of the accessport and I love it but it is not a tune that will squeeze out all of your cars potential. No off the shelf map can get your car to its maximun potential safely since they dont all run exactly the same. I went with Cobb because they have a rep. for haveing the safest maps and some great gains for a great price. If you want the best tune possible you need to go to a good tuner and have them do a street tune or dyno tune. From what I've read UTEC would be great if you want to have someone do a custom tune or even if you want to do the tuneing yourself. I dont know much about the UTEC and I havent researched it any since I didnt want to have to mess with all of the tweaking. If you want to flash it, leave it and not worry that the map is too agressive I would go with Cobb.

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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MO REX
I'll 2nd that but I disagree with your statement claiming the Cobb reflash is the best tune. I am a proud owner of the accessport and I love it but it is not a tune that will squeeze out all of your cars potential. No off the shelf map can get your car to its maximun potential safely since they dont all run exactly the same. I went with Cobb because they have a rep. for haveing the safest maps and some great gains for a great price. If you want the best tune possible you need to go to a good tuner and have them do a street tune or dyno tune. From what I've read UTEC would be great if you want to have someone do a custom tune or even if you want to do the tuneing yourself. I dont know much about the UTEC and I havent researched it any since I didnt want to have to mess with all of the tweaking. If you want to flash it, leave it and not worry that the map is too agressive I would go with Cobb.

I think it all really depends on what your plans are for the future. If you plan on going big with the mods then i would spend a little extra and do EcuTek / Utec. I think in general not only does is make sense to properly adjust the ECU to the correct parameters but also from a safety point of view as it relates to maximizing performance with a modified car. In my opinion the AP is a great resonably low cost general solution to ECU managment / mod; but blindly plugging in maps that alter, on a wide base scale, the ECU might be to the detriment of the car in the long run. Having the ability to make minor adjustments for almost every engine mod not only offers flexability but maximizes the full potential of the car overall.

Just my $02


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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwilson21
In my opinion the AP is a great resonably low cost general solution to ECU managment / mod; but blindly plugging in maps that alter, on a wide base scale, the ECU might be to the detriment of the car in the long run.

Are you trying to say that Trey Cobb is blindly changeing mapping in a way that will be detrimental to the car in the long run? My understanding is that he tunes his maps in a very conservative way. Like I said above, I agree that a custom tune is a lot better than an off the shelf map but if you have an egt gauge and the temps are within range I wouldnt think you would have anything to worry about with an off the shelf map. Im not trying to discredit your statement, Im just wondering what exactly about his maps will cause this future damage. Im not trying to be a ...., Im just curious.
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