quick newbie question about headers
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quick newbie question about headers
what are they? i understand as of now that they are part of the exhaust system, and i read somewhere that they are just a system where the exhaust, burnt up oil and air from the engine, are released into the piping into the air. and i thikn the header is the part where the exhaust's first step into going outside the car, and it is tubes for each cylinder to do so, and it converges into one pipe and heads down to the downpipe and catalytic convertor and stuff, but whati dont get is ..what is the difference between a normal header, if there is such a thing, and a performance header system, or between no header and a header.
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I think you're asking "What's the difference between a header and an exhaust manifold?"
You've got it right for the most part, the header/exhaust manifold collects exhaust gasses from each cylinder and merges them into one pipe.
Someone else can pick up where I left off...
(explaining the above question and the equal-length header stuff)
You've got it right for the most part, the header/exhaust manifold collects exhaust gasses from each cylinder and merges them into one pipe.
Someone else can pick up where I left off...
(explaining the above question and the equal-length header stuff)
check it out http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...?threadid=1575
High perfomance headers will have less restrictions and better air flow for more power.
High perfomance headers will have less restrictions and better air flow for more power.
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Only a couple of people have answered this, so I will jump in. Oh, I'm sure there are some others who have asked a similar question, so you can do a search on this forum, but I don't want to be one of those guys who gets somewhat 'rude'.
Anyway, yes, you got it pretty much right. The headers or exhaust manifold are the tubes you see leaving the heads and lead to the up-pipe. There are different types of 'headers' out there. There are 4-2-1 and 4-1, for example. Meaning, four tubes go into two tubes and then into one for the 4-2-1. Without going into detail, these configurations give you different power outputs and different areas of your rev range (due to flow). Also, there are equal length and non-equal length 'headers'. Equal length will give you better power gains over non-equal, but in a WRX, you will lose that boxer sound which many love. Now, whether they are good or not depends on your setup. When you have a turbo, things change a lot in how an exhaust setup helps you. When it comes to the exhaust BEFORE the turbo, you want your exhaust gases to be travelling at a high speed (to spin the exhaust turbine). You also want a lower temperature (also helps speed things up). Technically, putting 'headers' on you car which normally have a larger tubing then stock, you will be slowing down these gases and increasing volume. This isn't really that great for a stock turbo that is small and likes having that fast exhaust gas. With larger turbos, however, having this increased volume can help, especially at higher rpm's. After the turbo, which is where you find the down-pipe, you want to have a free flowing exhaust with little backpressure. Backpressure isn't that great for either the compressor or the turbine of a turbo because it forces these 'wheels' to work harder to get the same output. This can lead to destroyed bearings after a while. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm horrible at explaining things. Try looking at the math of this stuff....yuck!
Anyway, yes, you got it pretty much right. The headers or exhaust manifold are the tubes you see leaving the heads and lead to the up-pipe. There are different types of 'headers' out there. There are 4-2-1 and 4-1, for example. Meaning, four tubes go into two tubes and then into one for the 4-2-1. Without going into detail, these configurations give you different power outputs and different areas of your rev range (due to flow). Also, there are equal length and non-equal length 'headers'. Equal length will give you better power gains over non-equal, but in a WRX, you will lose that boxer sound which many love. Now, whether they are good or not depends on your setup. When you have a turbo, things change a lot in how an exhaust setup helps you. When it comes to the exhaust BEFORE the turbo, you want your exhaust gases to be travelling at a high speed (to spin the exhaust turbine). You also want a lower temperature (also helps speed things up). Technically, putting 'headers' on you car which normally have a larger tubing then stock, you will be slowing down these gases and increasing volume. This isn't really that great for a stock turbo that is small and likes having that fast exhaust gas. With larger turbos, however, having this increased volume can help, especially at higher rpm's. After the turbo, which is where you find the down-pipe, you want to have a free flowing exhaust with little backpressure. Backpressure isn't that great for either the compressor or the turbine of a turbo because it forces these 'wheels' to work harder to get the same output. This can lead to destroyed bearings after a while. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm horrible at explaining things. Try looking at the math of this stuff....yuck!
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Exahust manifolds are usually Cast iron and are one peice .. Headers are tubes welded together and attached to a flange to bolt to the block. Also, on a WRX the pre turbo exahust system is not to shabby. If your car is not modded in regards to exahust you should start with a Cat Back .. High Flow Cat or Midpipe .. Downpipe .. and Up Pipe. Do a search in some other threads to learn more about all of that. Anyways a header is somthing you won't probaly see any gains in hp if you are still stock, plus its a pain in the a** to put one on.
Hope I helped out a little more
-John
Hope I helped out a little more
-John
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thanks everyone for the reply, and i get it now, thanks to everyone of course. oh and yeah, i just wanted to know because i love cars, but i do not own one myself, lol, sad i know.
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