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Originally posted by SubaruWRX88
ban suvs: according to who?
You go ask my friend in chinatown with that pimped out subaru wrx with the blitz intercooler?
ban suvs: according to who?
You go ask my friend in chinatown with that pimped out subaru wrx with the blitz intercooler?
From Maximum Boost: Designing, Testing, and Installing Turbocharger Systems
by Corky Bell-
Removing heat from the intake charge has two huge areas of merit. First, the reduction of temperature makes the intake charge denser. The increase in density is proportional to the change in temperature (measured on the absolute scale). Denser intake charges make more power. (I'll explain this apparent contradiction of myself momentarily- BAN) Second, but no less important, is the terrific benefit to the combustion process brought about byreduced temperatures in the intake charge. Detonation is reduced by any reduction in intake temperatures. These two areas of merit are the reasons a proper intercooler can increase the power and margin of safety of the turbocharged engine.
Aside from the power increase, front mounts introduce much more lag than a top mount. Lag is, by definition, the amount of time it takes from flooring the pedal to reaching full boost, rather than what RPM you can reach it soonest, which is boost threshold. But all that is for another thread, another time.
Last edited by Kevin M; Jun 5, 2003 at 11:25 PM.
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Originally posted by SubaruWRX88
base on the dyno proven facts laying around in everywhere, the XS engineering cai is and "is" the best intake in the industry for the WRX.
BUT, many innocent civilians do claim that this notorious cai is worthless.
SO, in conclusion, do not invest in a cai and use your money more wisely in other places like a blitz intercooler, which will indeed easily add 30 more horses to your barn.
Alright buddy, case closed.
base on the dyno proven facts laying around in everywhere, the XS engineering cai is and "is" the best intake in the industry for the WRX.
BUT, many innocent civilians do claim that this notorious cai is worthless.
SO, in conclusion, do not invest in a cai and use your money more wisely in other places like a blitz intercooler, which will indeed easily add 30 more horses to your barn.
Alright buddy, case closed.
Intercoolers dont do 30hp. Intakes on WRX's suck. If you dont believe me, thats too bad cause Ive sat there and watched WRX after WRX get dynoed and you are wrong my friend.
Intercooler hoses are 5-10hp. Boost controlers are 10-15hp. Full exhausts are ~20hp. Intercoolers are hardly noticable, and ive seen dynos of WRX's with intakes that LOOSE power with the intakes installed. Just skip the intake all together and spend the money elsewhere.
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For a little more real life evidence:
Two friends tune their stage 4 cars with a UTEC. Run similar 1/4's (less than a tenth difference in time and 1/2MPH)
One guy puts on his CAI (an AEM, but it doesn't really matter)
They take a weekend and tune the car with the AEM (it needed it, BAD)
Take cars to track.
Car with CAI loses 1.5 seconds (at it's best) and a few (unsure) MPH.
Return car to Subaru intake
car runs old times
verdict (no dyno in Hawaii): CAI = bad
Two friends tune their stage 4 cars with a UTEC. Run similar 1/4's (less than a tenth difference in time and 1/2MPH)
One guy puts on his CAI (an AEM, but it doesn't really matter)
They take a weekend and tune the car with the AEM (it needed it, BAD)
Take cars to track.
Car with CAI loses 1.5 seconds (at it's best) and a few (unsure) MPH.
Return car to Subaru intake
car runs old times
verdict (no dyno in Hawaii): CAI = bad
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Originally posted by iLoqin
Be cheap, take out the airbox, put in a K&N Filter. and you'll be fine. and it's a lot cheaper.
Be cheap, take out the airbox, put in a K&N Filter. and you'll be fine. and it's a lot cheaper.
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Originally posted by EtchyLives
For a little more real life evidence:
Two friends tune their stage 4 cars with a UTEC. Run similar 1/4's (less than a tenth difference in time and 1/2MPH)
One guy puts on his CAI (an AEM, but it doesn't really matter)
They take a weekend and tune the car with the AEM (it needed it, BAD)
Take cars to track.
Car with CAI loses 1.5 seconds (at it's best) and a few (unsure) MPH.
Return car to Subaru intake
car runs old times
verdict (no dyno in Hawaii): CAI = bad
For a little more real life evidence:
Two friends tune their stage 4 cars with a UTEC. Run similar 1/4's (less than a tenth difference in time and 1/2MPH)
One guy puts on his CAI (an AEM, but it doesn't really matter)
They take a weekend and tune the car with the AEM (it needed it, BAD)
Take cars to track.
Car with CAI loses 1.5 seconds (at it's best) and a few (unsure) MPH.
Return car to Subaru intake
car runs old times
verdict (no dyno in Hawaii): CAI = bad
Originally posted by in3g_wrx
OK....I'm going down the strip clocking in at 14.9 with an AEM CAI and an HKS BOV...So if I remove the intake, could you say that I would be running mid or even low 13s?
OK....I'm going down the strip clocking in at 14.9 with an AEM CAI and an HKS BOV...So if I remove the intake, could you say that I would be running mid or even low 13s?
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