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1st, Which type of car do you have?
2nd, This isn't an engine management question.
3rd, Are there dyno charts available?
4th, What do the dyno numbers tell us?
5th, When you say better, please elaborate.
6th, After Wicked answers question #1, can we get a mod to move this thread to the forum that it belongs in?
-Jason
2nd, This isn't an engine management question.
3rd, Are there dyno charts available?
4th, What do the dyno numbers tell us?
5th, When you say better, please elaborate.
6th, After Wicked answers question #1, can we get a mod to move this thread to the forum that it belongs in?
-Jason
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Numbers don't lie. Peoples perceptions are often less then satisfactory. The "butt dyno" isn't as accurate as we'd often hope.
If you want truth, look at the numbers.
If you want truth, look at the numbers.
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Forgot to mention..
What is nice about AEM is something that HKS USA also does.. You can't purchase products directly from them. That turns out to lead to CSRs that are betting informed of products and are not concerned "with the sale."
the MSRP on the Cold Air is about $250 whereas the short ram is $200; just something else....
What is nice about AEM is something that HKS USA also does.. You can't purchase products directly from them. That turns out to lead to CSRs that are betting informed of products and are not concerned "with the sale."
the MSRP on the Cold Air is about $250 whereas the short ram is $200; just something else....
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I would definitely have to say go with the CAI over the short ram. Jgrahn knows where I'm coming from on this one. But at $250, I'd seriously look at a Cobb instead. I really really doubt that any intake can make more usable power than Cobb's, and they are highly dedicated to Subaru tuning... AEM and HKS are just now getting on the bandwagon.
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base on the dyno proven facts laying around in everywhere, the XS engineering cai is and "is" the best intake in the industry for the WRX.
BUT, many innocent civilians do claim that this notorious cai is worthless.
SO, in conclusion, do not invest in a cai and use your money more wisely in other places like a blitz intercooler, which will indeed easily add 30 more horses to your barn.
Alright buddy, case closed.
BUT, many innocent civilians do claim that this notorious cai is worthless.
SO, in conclusion, do not invest in a cai and use your money more wisely in other places like a blitz intercooler, which will indeed easily add 30 more horses to your barn.
Alright buddy, case closed.
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I think many ppl already post this long time ago. CAI for turbo car is total BS. The cold air gets heat up badly by the compressor wheel of turbo anyway, Only intercooler is capable of reducing the heat in the charged air. Also CAI might creates more lag then short ram. That's why you don't see any CAI in any turbo cars in Options.
Honestly I really have my reservation about XS engineering's dyno about their CAI (11 or 13 more whp). Frankly I think any bolt on parts on WRX without engine tunning is almost useless.
CAI works well on NA cars, but useless for turbo. If it works, why we need intercooler? Oh please don't tell me CAI is for cooling down the turbo.....
-Bryan
Honestly I really have my reservation about XS engineering's dyno about their CAI (11 or 13 more whp). Frankly I think any bolt on parts on WRX without engine tunning is almost useless.
CAI works well on NA cars, but useless for turbo. If it works, why we need intercooler? Oh please don't tell me CAI is for cooling down the turbo.....
-Bryan
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lol... some of these comments (and you know who you are) are the reason why i simply hate the retail automotive market... lol.
Hey Eastwind, go bolt on a catless downpipe to any turbo car and tell me that is "almost useless" "without engine tunning".
Hey Eastwind, go bolt on a catless downpipe to any turbo car and tell me that is "almost useless" "without engine tunning".
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Originally posted by DarriiffftaaHuy
lol... some of these comments (and you know who you are) are the reason why i simply hate the retail automotive market... lol.
Hey Eastwind, go bolt on a catless downpipe to any turbo car and tell me that is "almost useless" "without engine tunning".
lol... some of these comments (and you know who you are) are the reason why i simply hate the retail automotive market... lol.
Hey Eastwind, go bolt on a catless downpipe to any turbo car and tell me that is "almost useless" "without engine tunning".
I don't believe Vishnu's stage 0 can make that much of HP only from uppipe, it also requires some sort of engine management like unichip.
-Bryan
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Originally posted by SubaruWRX88
use your money more wisely in other places like a blitz intercooler, which will indeed easily add 30 more horses to your barn.
use your money more wisely in other places like a blitz intercooler, which will indeed easily add 30 more horses to your barn.
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Originally posted by Eastwind
Frankly that's how I felt when I drive my friend's WRX with only HKS up and down pipe set up. Maybe there is some HP gain but I just can't feel the difference with stock WRX.
I don't believe Vishnu's stage 0 can make that much of HP only from uppipe, it also requires some sort of engine management like unichip.
-Bryan
Frankly that's how I felt when I drive my friend's WRX with only HKS up and down pipe set up. Maybe there is some HP gain but I just can't feel the difference with stock WRX.
I don't believe Vishnu's stage 0 can make that much of HP only from uppipe, it also requires some sort of engine management like unichip.
-Bryan
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