COBB Reflash: What kind of boost readings do you get?
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COBB Reflash: What kind of boost readings do you get?
I've had my reflash for almost a year now, and I never saw my boost get over 1.0 bar. I finally went ahead and tightened up my exhaust, put in new gaskets, etc, and suddenly I'm seeing 1.2 bar! Granted, this is in the cold, but that's a big increase.
I'm just curious about what other people are getting for boost readings with a Stage 2 @93 Octane.
Moral of the story: Fix your exhaust leak for better performance.
-Etch
I'm just curious about what other people are getting for boost readings with a Stage 2 @93 Octane.
Moral of the story: Fix your exhaust leak for better performance.
-Etch
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"The peak boost on the Stage 1 AccessECU should be 14.7 PSI +/- .5 PSI. Peak boost on Stage 2 should check in at 15.8 PSI +/- .5PSI. Boost being a little higher or lower than the target can depend on a few factors, especially with the Stage 2. The efficiency of the exhaust seems to be a major factor. Some exhaust configurations are a quite a bit less efficient than others. "
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what KmanRuffian said. I had about 13.5 with the stock restrictor and stock exhaust. post restrictor i'm at 15. love it. i wonder has your boost come down any now that the ecu has learned some? if you're at stage 2, i believe the stock restrictor has to be replaced first. good luck.
i just got a stg. 2 reflash and im hitting .1 bars at full boost. isn't that around 14.7 pounds? shouldnt i be hitting around 15.8 or something. i didnt get the restrictor yet and my mods are hks dp, hks catback, gfb stealthfx bov.
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yes, you appear to be under the target peak boost. i don't kwow how to fix that, but i do know you don't need the restrictor with stage 2. in fact cobb is doing away with the restrictor altogether! (see accessport release date/info thread in the forums section www.cobbtuning.com). i'd first search the access ecu thread (again in the forums section) for the answer to your question. if no luck there, i'd shoot trey/josh an email or give them a call on monday. good luck!
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here's a quote from cobb:
Here are some very commonly asked questions that I wanted to address regarding the AccessECU.
“I hear about a restrictor, will I get one?”
The short answer is; you will get one if you need one. We only automatically send them out with the Stage 1 AccessECU. I think that a lot of confusion has stemmed from people not having the correct expectations for boost levels, which is due largely to us not making that information as easily available as we should. The peak boost on the Stage 1 AccessECU should be 14.7 PSI +/- .5 PSI. Peak boost on Stage 2 should check in at 15.8 PSI +/- .5PSI. Boost being a little higher or lower than the target can depend on a few factors, especially with the Stage 2. The efficiency of the exhaust seems to be a major factor. Some exhaust configurations are a quite a bit less efficient than others. We tried sending out restrictors to a few of the customers with less than optimal combos, but they just experienced boost spikes and boost wavering. Thus the limited reports of “boost problems” that some of you have heard. It is a small minority that has had that issue. So we have ended up slightly increasing duty cycles to help those people hit the boost targets. Our first thought was to build the maps based upon a well designed system. That way the base numbers would be conservative (to work best with the properly designed systems) and the ECU could adjust slightly upwards if needed. But since the general consensus is that boost = power (even that crucial quarter of a pound : ) ) and that a good portion of the exhaust combos we are seeing are less than optimal, we are starting from higher base values, and have the AccessECU correct down the more efficient systems
as stated, the boost levels are conservative. however, higher boosts and boost spikes may not be good
and i don't believe you should be hitting those peak pressures until 3rd/4th gear at wot. there may be better ways to hit peak boost...i'd call/email cobb (cheaper than new engine). good luck!
Here are some very commonly asked questions that I wanted to address regarding the AccessECU.
“I hear about a restrictor, will I get one?”
The short answer is; you will get one if you need one. We only automatically send them out with the Stage 1 AccessECU. I think that a lot of confusion has stemmed from people not having the correct expectations for boost levels, which is due largely to us not making that information as easily available as we should. The peak boost on the Stage 1 AccessECU should be 14.7 PSI +/- .5 PSI. Peak boost on Stage 2 should check in at 15.8 PSI +/- .5PSI. Boost being a little higher or lower than the target can depend on a few factors, especially with the Stage 2. The efficiency of the exhaust seems to be a major factor. Some exhaust configurations are a quite a bit less efficient than others. We tried sending out restrictors to a few of the customers with less than optimal combos, but they just experienced boost spikes and boost wavering. Thus the limited reports of “boost problems” that some of you have heard. It is a small minority that has had that issue. So we have ended up slightly increasing duty cycles to help those people hit the boost targets. Our first thought was to build the maps based upon a well designed system. That way the base numbers would be conservative (to work best with the properly designed systems) and the ECU could adjust slightly upwards if needed. But since the general consensus is that boost = power (even that crucial quarter of a pound : ) ) and that a good portion of the exhaust combos we are seeing are less than optimal, we are starting from higher base values, and have the AccessECU correct down the more efficient systems
as stated, the boost levels are conservative. however, higher boosts and boost spikes may not be good
and i don't believe you should be hitting those peak pressures until 3rd/4th gear at wot. there may be better ways to hit peak boost...i'd call/email cobb (cheaper than new engine). good luck!
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here's more. now what? believe me, i'm with ya. up pipe and down pipe going on next week. when the accessport comes and i dial in stage 2 if the boost isn't right i'll be wondering the same thing!
Originally posted by Trey:
[QB] No more restrictor hoses with any Stages. We're doing everything in our power not to use them because frankly, people's obsession with them drives us crazy. If I had a nickle for every call/email/etc that dealt with restrictor hoses...well, you get the idea. If we have to fly out to your house and secretly install hoses while you all sleep we'd rather do that!
The AccessPORTs will be preloaded the all the current Stage maps as well as Valet, Anti-Theft, and a low-octane low-boost map. The others will be made available off the web site and we may load a few on the CD-ROM we send out with the Map Management software loaded on it. All the AccessPORTs are getting a default software load initially. I'm sure we can custom load maps on some if requested, it'll just delay shipping that particular AccessPORT a few days as it won't be part of the normal "assembly line".
CEL function will be part of the initialization process. You pick the map that has the Check Engine Light functionality you want before you initialize the AccessPORT.
Let's see, ummm...No restrictor hose. Oh yeah, and umm, no restrictor hose.
jbruno no restrictor hose for you!
The AccessTUNER package is still targeted at the same price - under $1000. Getting the AccessPORT now will save a bit of money but take into account shipping the AccessPORT back to us for the upgrade. That's not covered in the upgrade cost. I doubt it'll cost $40 to ship normal ground but if you want it next day air it likely will.
Cheers,
Trey @ COBB Tuning [/QB]
[QB] No more restrictor hoses with any Stages. We're doing everything in our power not to use them because frankly, people's obsession with them drives us crazy. If I had a nickle for every call/email/etc that dealt with restrictor hoses...well, you get the idea. If we have to fly out to your house and secretly install hoses while you all sleep we'd rather do that!
The AccessPORTs will be preloaded the all the current Stage maps as well as Valet, Anti-Theft, and a low-octane low-boost map. The others will be made available off the web site and we may load a few on the CD-ROM we send out with the Map Management software loaded on it. All the AccessPORTs are getting a default software load initially. I'm sure we can custom load maps on some if requested, it'll just delay shipping that particular AccessPORT a few days as it won't be part of the normal "assembly line".
CEL function will be part of the initialization process. You pick the map that has the Check Engine Light functionality you want before you initialize the AccessPORT.
Let's see, ummm...No restrictor hose. Oh yeah, and umm, no restrictor hose.
jbruno no restrictor hose for you!
The AccessTUNER package is still targeted at the same price - under $1000. Getting the AccessPORT now will save a bit of money but take into account shipping the AccessPORT back to us for the upgrade. That's not covered in the upgrade cost. I doubt it'll cost $40 to ship normal ground but if you want it next day air it likely will.
Cheers,
Trey @ COBB Tuning [/QB]
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