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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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AccessPORT Economy Map 91 Octane Review:

This weekend I took a long road trip to NY and on the way decided to try out the AccessPORT 91 Octane Economy Map. Here are my results:

Tank #1: Mixed 50/50 of 89 and 93 Octane to come up with 91 Octane. Ran through the 1st tank with 100% highway driving and averaged 25.5 MPG

Tank #2: Mixed 50/50 of 89 and 93 again to come up with 91 Octane and ran through this tank with about 90% highway (Eco91 map)/10% city (Stage2/91 map) driving and averaged 20.0 MPG

Tank #3: Decided to try using a tank of 93 Octane fuel with the 91 Octane Eco Map and achieved 29.54 MPG over 140.6 Miles on 100% highway driving.


AccessPORT 91 Eco map on 93/94 Octane is the way to get high MPG! Hope this helps everyone!
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by mopho
While I would certainly enjoy more power, for me the flexibility and reduction of turbo lag is more important. So if I was to go with the accessport and an up pipe would I still remain at stage one? Is a downpipe enough to go to stage two or do you need the whole system? (hopefully not, because that would put me over what I want to spend on the car)
According to Cobb, the up pipe is within the learning curve of the factory ECU. The learning abilities are retained by the accesport. Pulleys, IC hoses and up pipes are all within the learning curve. Stage 2 is specifically for turbo back exhaust. Lots of more info is available on Cobb's forum. They have an entire forum devoted to the accesport. www.wrxforum.com
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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I didn't read the whole post but i believe someone asked about returning to stock for warranty work. I think you can flash a stock base map and be fine. I also think that cobb said that SOA's obd2 diag cannot see the reflash. If you reflsh to stock and remove the accessport every time you will be limited to 100 reflashes. If you use the stock basemap and set it to the stock realtime when you take it to your dealer there should be no problems. Call cobb to be sure though.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by wrx10404
I didn't read the whole post but i believe someone asked about returning to stock for warranty work. I think you can flash a stock base map and be fine. I also think that cobb said that SOA's obd2 diag cannot see the reflash. If you reflsh to stock and remove the accessport every time you will be limited to 100 reflashes. If you use the stock basemap and set it to the stock realtime when you take it to your dealer there should be no problems. Call cobb to be sure though.
I think this is where I am getting lost... so you can load a map but if you unplug the accessport then that takes the number from 100 down one right? But if you keep the accessport constantly plugged in then you don't have to worry about degrading the ecu?

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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Car Info: 51E LHD V7 STI (2.0)
Originally posted by 68spec
Quick question: when the map info states you need "Stock intake" would i run into problems if i had an mrt air intake and chose to run those maps
the car will run VERY lean and yes you'll have problems after that.
Old Apr 18, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Car Info: 51E LHD V7 STI (2.0)
Originally posted by 68spec
Would you think that cobb would ever make maps for cars with intakes, because if not i'd have to put my stock intake back in? I would think that air intake would always be better and never get in the way of performance upgrades...
cobb does make some maps for intake systems (limited number) since they really do not believe in them... the reason is because the readings from the MAF sensor are unpredictable with intake systems and also you cannot always get an accurate reading... they recommend if you are going to use one of their stage maps (unless stated) to use the stock airbox with a drop in filter (ie blitz/k&n...etc.)

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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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From: How do you swap an RSTi?
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Cobb is developing their own intake.

Intake

This product is being built purely for the fact that so many people want to upgrade the intake on their WRX, yet there really isn't one that's properly designed. Developing an intake for the WRX is a much more difficult process than too many "mass market" intake manufacturers give it credit for. The primary issue revolves around the sensitive Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor used on the WRX and how much the engine management relies on it for proper fuel and timing control. With an incorrectly designed intake, you normally experience more hesitations in the powerband due to this sensor's calibrations and the inconsistencies most intakes create. At worst, you can run too lean and damage the engine. It is not uncommon at all for owners to have engine or related engine subcomponent failures directly related to the incorrect intakes being used.

The dilemna we are faced with is that so many owners simply want to make this one of their first upgrades. While we have long been part of the camp that says not to touch the factory air box, we've decided to take on the challenge and provide fellow enthusiasts with an intake that's actually properly designed. There is more to it than simply making the inner diameter that the MAF sensor resides in the same size. There are several other flow considerations that must be accounted for in order to provide the optimal result.

Our system utilizes several unique features in an effort to maintain optimal flow for performance while minimizing turbulance that can cause engine management problems. We are also designing the intake to be used on vehicles with stock or uncalibrated ECUs. Our initial design will be in a "short ram" configuration to support those with Front Mounted Intercoolers though we will be offering optional provisions for cool air ducting for those that want and can ultilize it with their configuration.

Status: Final stages of development
Release Date: Summer 2004
Applications: WRX, STi, Forester XT, Baja Turbo
Est. Pricing: $175-$225
to see for yourself:
http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/under-dev.html#intake
Old Apr 18, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Car Info: 51E LHD V7 STI (2.0)
Originally posted by 68spec
I am currently running an apexi avc-r ebc...would the apexi be able to run together with the accessport
they don't recommended it and any problem associated with your car when the avc-r is hooked up cobb will not take responsability for.

I use my SBC-iD only at the track to eliminate the boost tapper that I'm experiencing at about 5500RPM.

keep in mind that you have to know the limitations of your car. Also you & the computer will not be able to control boost how it wants. you'll have to have either the avc-r or the ECU controlling the boost.

SBC-iD comes with it's own boost solenoid and I have to disconnect my factory one everytime I use mine. I don't know how the avc-r works so I wouldn't be able to tell you if you'll have to do the same thing

regarding your intake issue... it is really up to you if you want to use your intake... just know that they recommend your stock airbox... if you want to use an intake when cobb come out with theirs then you can use that one and I'm sure that they will have maps that include THEIR intake.

Jon
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