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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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...That article also didn't mention a single definitive reason why acetone would not work, other than it cannot be replicated in a lab, gee I wonder why?
Maybe because it doesn't actually help?


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There's a reason Exxon makes $80 billion a quarter, and its the same reason we don't have electric cars in dealers anymore.
Actually we haven't had electric cars in showrooms since about 1999, back when oil was about $36/bbl and gas was around $2/gallon, and Exxon/Mobil profits were in the more reasonable couple hundred million or so.

The reason exxon makes $80 billion a qtr is because they have colluded with their "competition" to fix prices and rape the working class across the entire planet


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BTW gas is also a solvent.
Yes indeed, so is water, but automotive paints are formulated to withstand them, which is not the case with Acetone.

I agree that its a pretty weak refutation by Scopes usual standards, but still putting anything other than gasoline in your car's fuel tank seems like a generally bad idea to me.
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Maybe because it doesn't actually help?




Actually we haven't had electric cars in showrooms since about 1999, back when oil was about $36/bbl and gas was around $2/gallon, and Exxon/Mobil profits were in the more reasonable couple hundred million or so.

The reason exxon makes $80 billion a qtr is because they have colluded with their "competition" to fix prices and rape the working class across the entire planet




Yes indeed, so is water, but automotive paints are formulated to withstand them, which is not the case with Acetone.

I agree that its a pretty weak refutation by Scopes usual standards, but still putting anything other than gasoline in your car's fuel tank seems like a generally bad idea to me.

we can go round for round on this, but my point is that this seems like an interesting additive. Im curious for the simple fact that there is so much talk about it. Nevertheless, the article refuting the claims of acetone as a fuel additive is a very weak article, whereas the article claiming acetone works, has data to back its claim, be it false data or not, its better than saying dont put acetone in your tank because it eats paint.
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Then go right ahead my friend, have fun experimenting!

Let us know about your fantastic and amazing mileage improvements.


I just happen to think that if there was some miracle solution that by adding 1% acetone creates a significant economy improvement that scientific studies would have easily verified it and the oil companies would have leveraged it to their competitive advantage decades before you were born.

But it says so on the internets so it must be true!

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by psoper
Then go right ahead my friend, have fun experimenting!

Let us know about your fantastic and amazing mileage improvements.


I just happen to think that if there was some miracle solution that by adding 1% acetone creates a significant economy improvement that scientific studies would have easily verified it and the oil companies would have leveraged it to their competitive advantage decades before you were born.

But it says so on the internets so it must be true!
Such skepticism, dont get so worked up. Its not that important.
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Katalyst
I've used most of the Solvents-toluene, xylene, and others... they don't change the gas millage (at least for me), they do however increase boost.
No, they dont. They allow YOU to run higher boost by preventing predetonation
I don't know the long term effects on the engines, but they do burn cleaner than gas and provide more octane.
No, it doesn't. It does NOT change the octane value of the (now mixed) fuel, it DOES change the predet resistance (which is the same effect as raising octane, but not the same thing).


Putting acetone in your gas is asking to have your fuel lines melt.
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by matthepcat
http://www.aptera.com/

300MPG FTW

Only $26,800 goes on sale at the end of 2008.
I'd take 200 mpg if it was more attractive.
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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I'd take 200 mpg if it was more attractive.
I agree, but hey look at the Prius..it's a block of cheese and it sold like crazy.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
Then go right ahead my friend, have fun experimenting!

Let us know about your fantastic and amazing mileage improvements.
I've been using it consistently for a year. before, the best (highway) i could get was 23mph, low was around 20-21. using 3-4 oz of acetone per fill-up I get between 23-26mph. (hmm.....a 15-30% increase...LOL)

I just happen to think that if there was some miracle solution that by adding 1% acetone creates a significant economy improvement that scientific studies would have easily verified it and the oil companies would have leveraged it to their competitive advantage decades before you were born.
How would this be a 'competitive advantage'? Why would gas companies add something to their fuel that would decrease usage (and therefore revenue) by at least 15%???

yes, I know 76 and those guys add additives that 'claim' they clean and create more power and blah, blah, blah...but I get the same power/mpg from Olympic as I do from 76. personally, I trust that article on the internet more than I trust big corp oil marketing ads that just try to get my to fill up at their station over Arco or whatever.

Scientific studies take money...nuff said. Oil companies aren't going to pay for it....gov't has placed their faith in ethanol.....

Putting acetone in your gas is asking to have your fuel lines melt.
maybe in a 1960 mustang...not with recent materials. last fuel filter replacement.....rubber lines a-okay

soooo....flame suit on, but that's my .02
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UP2MTNS
I've been using it consistently for a year. before, the best (highway) i could get was 23mph, low was around 20-21. using 3-4 oz of acetone per fill-up I get between 23-26mph. (hmm.....a 15-30% increase...LOL)


How would this be a 'competitive advantage'? Why would gas companies add something to their fuel that would decrease usage (and therefore revenue) by at least 15%???

yes, I know 76 and those guys add additives that 'claim' they clean and create more power and blah, blah, blah...but I get the same power/mpg from Olympic as I do from 76. personally, I trust that article on the internet more than I trust big corp oil marketing ads that just try to get my to fill up at their station over Arco or whatever.

Scientific studies take money...nuff said. Oil companies aren't going to pay for it....gov't has placed their faith in ethanol.....



maybe in a 1960 mustang...not with recent materials. last fuel filter replacement.....rubber lines a-okay

soooo....flame suit on, but that's my .02
WOW someone who has tried it, and lives to tell the tale, do you still have paint on your car? (just kidding) good opinion though, I like it. Im going to try acetone on my next fill up in the Mazda 3.
Old Mar 21, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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WOW someone who has tried it, and lives to tell the tale, do you still have paint on your car? (just kidding) good opinion though, I like it. Im going to try acetone on my next fill up in the Mazda 3.
oh, yeah, that's the other funny thing....a line of stripped paint from the gas can? Please....Acetone evaporates in seconds....i spilled some on the paint once, by the time I got a towel to wipe it off, it was gone.


another observation....I recently upgraded my turbo/injectors, when I pulled out my sti pinks this January (with 60K miles on them)...they were squeeky clean, and the rubber seals were in perfect condition on all 4. I sold'm pretty quick.
Old Mar 21, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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all i can say is this, since they have been adding ethanol to the gasoline, my mpgs have gone down, i know it has been cold here, but still i ran stage 2 since august and i also ran the fuel economy map, on the highway the econo map was pretty good, but lately the have been putting ethanol in and my mpgs have gone way down no change in driving style either ethanol sucks.
you need more of it to do the same as before. bring back 101 leaded, and just make that the standard and be done with it.
or just get raped with deisel, cheapest fuel out their to make.
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