Your Clutching habits
Originally Posted by STi_4_Keri
depends...if im in high heels or flip-flops i keep my heel up so it doesn't get snagged on the mat otherwise heels stay in one place.
Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
the only way to engage the clutch with your heel on the floor is if you had a roller on the clutch pedal that would allow your heel to be the stationary pivot point on the floor. im pretty sure everyone has there foot off the ground.

Originally Posted by wombatsauce
It's pretty fun to learn, but just takes lots of practice. It's pretty sweet when you start getting able to pull it off. A loud exhaust really helps the learning process.
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Originally Posted by Snot Rod
My size 10 1/2 Chuck Taylor All-Stars give me an unfair advantage. 
I think I'll use my old Chevy Corvair w/dual pipes as a "flight simulator" as soon as I get it running and up here from SoCal. If I b0rk a shift, I can get it fixed for much cheaper than I could on my WRX.

I think I'll use my old Chevy Corvair w/dual pipes as a "flight simulator" as soon as I get it running and up here from SoCal. If I b0rk a shift, I can get it fixed for much cheaper than I could on my WRX.
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I used to keep my foot on the ground, I find it easier to control clutch engagement when not letting it touch, so I no longer let it touch
work shoes suck, I perfer drving in my casual shoes
work shoes suck, I perfer drving in my casual shoes
It has a lot to do with how long your legs are, as well as what kind of shoes. In airwalks or pilotis, foot usually doesn't touch the floor but with my size 12.5's it's a little harder. Usually depends on the driving style as well..
Originally Posted by wombatsauce
It has a lot to do with how long your legs are, as well as what kind of shoes. In airwalks or pilotis, foot usually doesn't touch the floor but with my size 12.5's it's a little harder. Usually depends on the driving style as well..
I cant really heal toe (well not in the classical configuration), because my foot is too damn big to angle that way (will hit the center console)
Instead I can just roll my ankle and hit the gas with the right edge of my shoe
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Originally Posted by ucbsti
True...with my size 11.5 dress shoes and being 6'+, its damn hard to keep your heel off the ground
I cant really heal toe (well not in the classical configuration), because my foot is too damn big to angle that way (will hit the center console)
Instead I can just roll my ankle and hit the gas with the right edge of my shoe
I cant really heal toe (well not in the classical configuration), because my foot is too damn big to angle that way (will hit the center console)
Instead I can just roll my ankle and hit the gas with the right edge of my shoe
heel toe is used when your brake pedal passes your throttle when fully depressed...you have to use your heel, but in a nice subarus that are 0-10 years old, the pedals are even when braking, thats why i use my ball.
But i wear skate shoes that are size 11.5 and ball-toe is impossible in any skinny racing shoe/barefoot
+1 for barefoot driving
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I don't precisely lift my heel, but I do drag it on the floorboard when I'm clutching. I.e. I clutch from my thigh, not my calf.
The exception is when I'm rallying and am downshifting into a turn. Then my heel comes off the floor completely. The reason is that I'm just about to switch it over to the brake to left-foot brake through the turn.
So, I'm bombing along, left foot's on the dead pedal, right foot's got the gas mashed. Turn coming up. Left foot to the clutch, right foot to heel-and-toe position on the brake (with my toe on the brake). Threshhold brake with right foot, clutch with left foot, blip throttle by rolling right foot. Then switch feet - right foot goes to mash the gas, left foot to the brake. Left-foot-brake as necessary. When the revs start winding out, left foot goes back to the clutch to upshift, then back to dead pedal.
It's a little dance. I have occasionally stepped on my own toes.
I do know a fellow rallyist who never clutches one's he's left the start. He has a reputation for grenading gearboxes, although he's quick. That's in a Golf though.
Subaru pedal clusters are pretty well laid out. So are VW ones. The one in my Miata sucks. It's REALLY hard to heel-and-toe that car without racing shoes on.
The exception is when I'm rallying and am downshifting into a turn. Then my heel comes off the floor completely. The reason is that I'm just about to switch it over to the brake to left-foot brake through the turn.
So, I'm bombing along, left foot's on the dead pedal, right foot's got the gas mashed. Turn coming up. Left foot to the clutch, right foot to heel-and-toe position on the brake (with my toe on the brake). Threshhold brake with right foot, clutch with left foot, blip throttle by rolling right foot. Then switch feet - right foot goes to mash the gas, left foot to the brake. Left-foot-brake as necessary. When the revs start winding out, left foot goes back to the clutch to upshift, then back to dead pedal.
It's a little dance. I have occasionally stepped on my own toes.
I do know a fellow rallyist who never clutches one's he's left the start. He has a reputation for grenading gearboxes, although he's quick. That's in a Golf though.
Subaru pedal clusters are pretty well laid out. So are VW ones. The one in my Miata sucks. It's REALLY hard to heel-and-toe that car without racing shoes on.
Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
THANK YOU SO MUCH! how do you people heel toe? if you can do it...cool, but it seems pointless for me. Ive been in older cars, where you have to heel toe, but im pretty sure in all subarus, ball-toe shifting is way easier.
Heel-toeing is when you are diving into a corner and you need brakes at the same time as you must match revs for the next gear, so you are on the brakes at the same time as blipping the throttle. To take it to the next level, learn to double-clutch and heel-toe at the same time.
In my old track car (old RWD Celica) I mastered heel-toeing. It was awesome because the brakes were wicked in that car, so I would be hauling it down and then be able to quickly jump on the gas again in the correct gear.. Good times. I had adjustable pedals in that car and it took a while to get them to where they were comfortable for me, but I got it eventually. In my R32 - I have only had it 3 months and not even close yet.. It has an aftermarket clutch in it too, which is a little tricky and needs to be bled. So even though I am good at it and feel that I have mastered it in a few of my cars, I gotta learn it all over again when I get a new car. Don't get frustrated - it takes time.



