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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Issues with unemployment benefits are only magnified by pre existing issues in personal financial planning.
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Everyone thinks they're entitled to everything. The unemployment rates wouldn't be so high if almost everyone was offered unemployment. My GF works at starbucks on CSU Campus gets $8/hr 20 hrs a week, She worked for about 6 months, then returned to her parents for summer. They offered her unemployment for the 3 months of summer. She declined and found a job in LA working 35-40 hrs a week instead. People would rather live off the system instead of getting a job that pays the same. I mean why work when you can't get the same pay while sitting on your ***. The system is flawed and gives most people no incentive to get out and work.

Edit: more to my thoughts on this, my parents own a small construction business. My parents and 1 employee. Well there employee is a dumbass to keep it simple, they are waiting for him to quit so they don't have to pay out of pocket to this guys unemployment. When they hired him he was already on unemployment also.

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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeg
Everyone thinks they're entitled to everything. The unemployment rates wouldn't be so high if almost everyone was offered unemployment. My GF works at starbucks on CSU Campus gets $8/hr 20 hrs a week, She worked for about 6 months, then returned to her parents for summer. They offered her unemployment for the 3 months of summer. She declined and found a job in LA working 35-40 hrs a week instead. People would rather live off the system instead of getting a job that pays the same. I mean why work when you can't get the same pay while sitting on your ***. The system is flawed and gives most people no incentive to get out and work.
What? People get offered unemployment like that?
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Yeah my GF got offered as well as all other food workers on the campus who didn't decide to work there over summer.
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeg
Yeah my GF got offered as well as all other food workers on the campus who didn't decide to work there over summer.
Yeah it's pretty common.


Side note. I worked at a gas station for a while. One of the guys was about as dumb a person I've ever been around. Guy was a nitrous head. He didn't do squat for work around the shop. My boss was an old school dude. You busted your butt he liked you and took care of you. He basically cut this dudes hours and gave them to me over time. Then gave more and more responsibility to me and less and less to him. Got to the point he was barely working and he pretty much was everyone's *****.

After a while he just quit.

If your folks can afford it maybe they can bring in a new employee and do the same thing.
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by akdmx
Issues with unemployment benefits are only magnified by pre existing issues in personal financial planning.
Word but it can't always be helped. I was 24 the first time i got laid off and I had $8000+ in my savings account. How many 24 year olds do you know that save like that. I was in the process of changing things for the better. I took a $35,000 pay cut to move somewhere I liked to be closer to my family and my girlfriend (now my wife). The chick ran a scam essentially. I did all their work for a month. Made her a bunch of money and she cut me loose.

This last time I had some savings but money goes quick when you have a family.


But you're absolutely right. As a society in general we spend what we earn and are not prepared for adversity.
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Yeah it's pretty common.


Side note. I worked at a gas station for a while. One of the guys was about as dumb a person I've ever been around. Guy was a nitrous head. He didn't do squat for work around the shop. My boss was an old school dude. You busted your butt he liked you and took care of you. He basically cut this dudes hours and gave them to me over time. Then gave more and more responsibility to me and less and less to him. Got to the point he was barely working and he pretty much was everyone's *****.

After a while he just quit.

If your folks can afford it maybe they can bring in a new employee and do the same thing.
Thats the kind of boss my dad is, if he sees you putting in effort and trying to learn he will take care of you. Give you more benefits, be more understanding of your needs.

Was the guy at your work working less hours? or just had nothing to do while at work? my parents said if they cut his hours a good amount they will have to make it up with unemployment or something. Not 100% on the whole situation.
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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I have nothing but bad things to say about it. I was laid off years ago and was ineligible for unemployment because my employer lied to them and said I was fired for disciplinary reasons. I tried to dispute it but they committed fraud and made up new papers for my "termination" and they won the appeal. Ironically this is one of the same companies who less than a year later received billions in government bailout. In the mean time, my dad was just laid off, is receiving boatloads of severance and other payouts from his former employer (making more off those alone than he did when he was still on the payroll) and is getting unemployment on top of that.
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
How is it that my brother in law does 8 years in the military with 2 deployments and he doesn't qualify for unemployment.


Sounds like it's time for some change....kinda leading away from the main topic, but anyone else think it's time American's start trying to make the change politicians keep talking about?
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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My understanding is monthly you/your company pay into unemployment. This already creates a problem if you are someone who never collects.

Also you shouldn't be able to collect unemployment without having had a full time legal job (which you can't get without a social and signing all that bs when you start a job about being a legal resident). You only collect if you qualify by having paid in and then being layed off. People fired or people quitting don't get jack.

Sounds like you should be complaining about the military ****ing him over without a job or money, not the unemployment.

Did he just become unemployed?
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I was eligible for unemployment when I left the military, but that was many years ago. Has he tried UCX?

Unemployment Compensation for Ex-servicemembers, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor
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sucks tho

and props to those that knows how to abuse the system, free money
Old Jun 18, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeg
Thats the kind of boss my dad is, if he sees you putting in effort and trying to learn he will take care of you. Give you more benefits, be more understanding of your needs.

Was the guy at your work working less hours? or just had nothing to do while at work? my parents said if they cut his hours a good amount they will have to make it up with unemployment or something. Not 100% on the whole situation.
If they cut him below full time... I think 32 hours, he can apply for unemployment to make up the rest of his hours but not everyone even knows they can do that.

This guys was working full time and he'd been there a few years before I got there. I was part time. He basically would start taking away shifts here and there and giving them to me so this dude was working less and less and/or getting worse shifts. Then duties would come to me that were his... like closing out registers and things like that.
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Originally Posted by Ddraig
I was eligible for unemployment when I left the military, but that was many years ago. Has he tried UCX?

Unemployment Compensation for Ex-servicemembers, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor
Thanks for the link. I'll send it over to him.

He's trying to get in to a really solid college for design right now so hopefully he'll be able to get in. He's about a smart a dude I've ever met and he's got serious skills. He can do stuff in Maya and mud box that a lot of pros can't do. Not to mention photoshop and building websites.
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
My understanding is monthly you/your company pay into unemployment. This already creates a problem if you are someone who never collects.

Also you shouldn't be able to collect unemployment without having had a full time legal job (which you can't get without a social and signing all that bs when you start a job about being a legal resident). You only collect if you qualify by having paid in and then being layed off. People fired or people quitting don't get jack.

Sounds like you should be complaining about the military ****ing him over without a job or money, not the unemployment.

Did he just become unemployed?

It was a general complain. The thread kind of took on a life of its own. My complaint was really for both.

He got screwed out of his bonus too. (by the military).

He got back from Iraq/Afghanistan a couple months ago but he's been helping his dad get through some health problems and taking care of them and the house out there. He was out there running protection for the convoys sitting in a gun box getting rocks thrown at his face.



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