I'm not trying to throw rocks here but that is a long term agenda that has to be supported by the people. One administration can't wake up one morning and say "today we'll create thorough, efficient and convenient public transportation that will be offered at a minimal cost to the citizen". That takes decades of administrations. Look at Eisenhower's interstate system. America has more highways then any country on Earth and it took how long? Also, look how big America is compared to European nations. It's the proverbial apples to oranges. The country at large dictates policy. Rest assured though, the public at large will be all over supporting increased funding of public transit, alternative fuels, etc... which is definitely a step in the right direction.

 

Exactly, an efficient public transportation system and a nationwide train system could take upwards of 30 years to implement, not to mention it needs public support, something public transit has never had in this country.

 

please dont make it happen lol if is 5 dollar, i really need to consider selling my rx8 getting a diesel jetta that gets me like 50 MPG lol

 

Upwards of 30 years to implement? Thats ridiculous. **** building the railroads back in the day didn't take that long. Come on thats a total cop out. I see nothing to support this except the fact Bush has ruined our Economy so badly that we can't afford to do the project.

And a 30 year long project giving new jobs to people, that would just be retarded.......
The fact is significant improvements could be had within 5 years, even less if our government wasn't so lame.

How did you determine that Europe had more public support for public transit?

I think we were in much better financial shape than them to start this, and look what they have done. Taking a **** on us.

American isn't bigger? Sure compared to Germany alone...........but **** even the worse off countries are killing us on transportation. Combined they have a lot of people as well. It's not like we are close here people, we are on the other end of the spectrum and there is no excuse.

Obviously the administration can't fix this in 1 day, but taking zero steps towards fixing this crisis year after year sure as **** ain't helping.

 

My point precisely. The fact of the matter is that America has historically enjoyed the privilege of relatively cheap energy prices and in some cases downright inexpensive prices. Europe on the other hand has had high prices practically since the Industrial Revolution. Look at the price of coal as railroads in England expanded and how they implemented water canals to supplement supply routes into industrial areas. Another key factor that is ignored here is that Europe experience a modern rebuilding on the international check book. After WWII Europe, notably England, got a new start as far as infrastructure was concerned.

To compound this the British held much of the Middle Easts oil contracts up until WWII when they were over extended as far as colonialism was concerned. They lost India, then the Middle East and the Mandate nations feel to America. Then we got the ARAMCO (Arab American Oil Contract with the Saud family) which set the stage for what we're dealing with today.

In essence (and I apologize for the ramble) the problem we see today at the pump is quite simply a lack of foresight over an extended period of time and a poor economy coming to fruition.

 

Are you joking me? It's taken the military over 10 years just to design and build the first F-22 Raptor let alone a project of this scale. Do you have an idea how long government contract work takes? Not to mention the fact of even getting the bill through Congress to fund it. People in Congress don't get off their asses until they're voting district really gets riled up and they realize they won't get elected again unless they make a visible effort.

The worst of countries are killing us on transportation? Name one country with the amount of vehicles we have (I won't even entertained the airline industry and the small amount of public transport we do have). Our cost per capita for transport is marginally lower than any other developed nation, Europe included. Like previously mentioned, people in Europe pay high gas prices because they fund other public service projects. In the grand scheme our fuel prices aren't even outrageously expensive, they just aren't as cheap compared to the rest of the world which they always have been.

 

Have you ever been to Europe? People use public transit much, much more. Their system is much better, its on time, can get you just about anywhere you need to go and isnt particularly expensive. Here in America public transit costs more, does not have a consistent schedule and can be damn difficult to get where you are going, especailly as a tourist.

Do you really think it owuld take less than 30 years to implement a train system similar to the one in Europe? Its not as simple as putting trains on existing tracks, if our current infrastructe could handle it dont you think train travel would be more prevalent?

 

Bingo! I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

U are proud of voting for bush? you sir is an idiot!

 

#1 maybe at the end of summer august-ish. but i pray not.

#2 i think the only reason that saudi king said no to bush for ramp up is cuz he is showing that bush is losing his power of influence. i think no matter who gets in obama or mccain that the saudi leader will ramp up for a show of good faith.

I hope we get some relief soon. in florida my brother told me they are having a contest to win a tanker of gas. not the ocean liner but like one the ones that drive down the freeway. wouldnt that be sweet.

economy always gets slow before a big election. everyone is not sure which way things will go. in a couple months things will be level again...i hope

 

as far as that is concerned for you to call someone an idiot for them sticking to their guns on who they voted for makes you an idiot. if you voted for john kerry maybe someone thinks you are an idiot. i think anyone that can say they are still proud for voting for someone no matter what the present situation is shows a little bit of character no matter what the topic is.

I am a Detroit Lions fan. always have been. they have super sucked for about 8 years now. but i am not a fair-weather fan.

sticking to your guns when other people strongly oppose you says something about someone. it shows they arent fair-weather but for you to knock someone for being proud for who they vote for or anything makes you a retard.

Good for you TSNwrx07. krazyasian can suck it.

 

gas is 135 dollars a barrel, 13 years ago it was 10 dollars...

 

i just payed 4.30 a gallon for gas... wow

 

my dad just payed 5 bucks for diesle(sp?) last night. sucks for him haha

 

One could certainly speculate that the Saudis controlling oil supplies so adamantly could be a sign of the times. Unrest in Iraq actually helps their regime and funnels radicals out. They're essentially handing their bad apples off to the Americans. America will have a vested interest in staying in Iraq longer if prices stay high.