I say at the end of July it will be.

 

the 76 off alcosta in dublin (next to 7-11) was 3.93 a few days ago, 3.99 two days ago, and 4.07 last night.

 

Their oil, they own it, not us.. their right to charge whatever price they want for barrel of crude.

We if don't like it, we should STOP pumping. Oh wait, gas is the like the true addiction for America.

Too bad demand will probably always be going up due to India/China and other developing nations.

 

I think premium has the chance of going to $5, but regular won't be $5 in June. Diesel is already there.

 

We CAN'T STOP PUMPING.

Yes THEY own the oil and THEY can do what they want but WE can impose trade embargos and up the prices of OUR exports. You want to see those countries go to **** lets see what happens when they can't get the **** they need because the rest of the world is sick of paying insane oil prices and doesn't need harroine that much.

You can't take the world hostage and expect no one to get pissed...



my personal opinion is **** the rest of the world right now. I'm sick of being the world police and the world saviors. Disaster... who's the first one there. America. Civil war and genocide... who is expected to step up... America. **** that. Let the UN deal with it. I'm sick and tired of everyone thinking america is full of *** holes and lazy self centered **** heads then turning around and living off our economy and taking advantage of our help and expecting us to save their ***. If we're so bad then why does everyone want to be here. Why do we have places like Watsonville with majority mexican immagrants. Fremont. Daly City. etc. Why do people want to be here? We're so bad. I don't want to be anywhere near the OPEC countries. So I'm not.

Shoot, we produce enough oil to be self sustaining. 90% of gas in 2007 was produced by U.S. refineries. We're the 3rd largest producer of oil. If we decided to be like the OPEC countries and hold back the world would be truly screwed.



sorry... quite honestly my knowledge is limited on this. I read what I can but I'm no economics major so I can only go off what I read and what I see. This is a hot button for me Gagan. You know you're my boy so don't take any of this personal.

All I'm saying is for the most part Americans don't really have a choice NOT to use gas. We don't have public transit in place. We have huge commutes compared to the rest of the world and our families are not centralized. Most of us can't get on a bike and ride over to our cousins house then bust over to grannies house like we could in the 50's. I'd LOVE to use less gas. But between commutes, travel and visiting family and friends my wife and I put about 55k on our 2 cars. It used to be more. I used to be about 35k a year MYSELF.


It's not that simple and it's not an "addiction" it's reliance. I'm sure many americans would love to take trains to work if they could. Or live 5 minutes from the office if they could. Sorry I can't afford to drop 850k on a house so I can be closer to the office.




sorry... just my personal opinion.


we're not as bad as the world media likes to make us out to be.

 

OPEC is taking America to the cleaners. This in my opinion is worse than the 70s scare with the whole Saudi Arabia/Arab Israeli conflict. The difference is that people adapted in the 70s, you saw muscle cars being replaced with Pintos and Datsuns. No one seems to be changing now. I ***** about gas prices but still pay them. There are only a small minority who have gone out and bought hybrids.

The issue with China, the decreased value of the American dollar (huge contributor), and the unrest in the Middle East have all combined to create somewhat of a perfect storm. Like someone else mentioned is the issue of both Congress and the President appearing to be seemingly unconcerned. Its funny how no one in Washington seems to be representing the American people what so ever. Hopefully this combined with health care, the wars, etc... will prove to be an awakening and we'll vote these incompetent losers out of office.

P.S. Sorry to make it a political rant but I figured I'd might as well ***** about the root of the problem.

 

So because, as you claim, no one else cares we shouldn't either? Change needs to start somewhere, America is as good a place as any to begin the change that is needed to take the power away from OPEC. OPEC countries are oil based economies, that is why the royal families are so rich and the rest of the country is so poor. Its a one sided economy, they rely on the rest of the world for all of their food and various other needs. If we want to see oil production increase and price drop we need to enfore embargos against these countries. We dont need oil to develop alternative energy sources, I dont know why you think that. We need to better harness the power of the sun, wind, water and geothermal alternatives. Put solar panels on your house and save yourself an energy bill every month, thats a start.

 

That is true, but we have the grains, and we would have a lot more of them if not for the failed ethanol energy policy. That is something Congress can do to lower the cost of living, but no one seems to want to acknowledge it is a failed policy and do anything about it to change it. We can squeeze them for the products they need since they have no way to produce anything essential to sustain life in their region other than oil.

 

[QUOTE=OneManArmy;2211052]We CAN'T STOP PUMPING.

Yes THEY own the oil and THEY can do what they want but WE can impose trade embargos and up the prices of OUR exports. You want to see those countries go to **** lets see what happens when they can't get the **** they need because the rest of the world is sick of paying insane oil prices and doesn't need harroine that much.

You can't take the world hostage and expect no one to get pissed...



my personal opinion is **** the rest of the world right now. I'm sick of being the world police and the world saviors. Disaster... who's the first one there. America. Civil war and genocide... who is expected to step up... America. **** that. Let the UN deal with it. I'm sick and tired of everyone thinking america is full of *** holes and lazy self centered **** heads then turning around and living off our economy and taking advantage of our help and expecting us to save their ***. If we're so bad then why does everyone want to be here. Why do we have places like Watsonville with majority mexican immagrants. Fremont. Daly City. etc. Why do people want to be here? We're so bad. I don't want to be anywhere near the OPEC countries. So I'm not.

Shoot, we produce enough oil to be self sustaining. 90% of gas in 2007 was produced by U.S. refineries. We're the 3rd largest producer of oil. If we decided to be like the OPEC countries and hold back the world would be truly screwed.



sorry... quite honestly my knowledge is limited on this. I read what I can but I'm no economics major so I can only go off what I read and what I see. This is a hot button for me Gagan. You know you're my boy so don't take any of this personal.

All I'm saying is for the most part Americans don't really have a choice NOT to use gas. We don't have public transit in place. We have huge commutes compared to the rest of the world and our families are not centralized. Most of us can't get on a bike and ride over to our cousins house then bust over to grannies house like we could in the 50's. I'd LOVE to use less gas. But between commutes, travel and visiting family and friends my wife and I put about 55k on our 2 cars. It used to be more. I used to be about 35k a year MYSELF.


It's not that simple and it's not an "addiction" it's reliance. I'm sure many americans would love to take trains to work if they could. Or live 5 minutes from the office if they could. Sorry I can't afford to drop 850k on a house so I can be closer to the office.




sorry... just my personal opinion.


OneManArmy you made really good points and really put the current situation into perspective a way alot of us can relate to..

I to believe we have given soo much to the world already and whether or not we got anything in return we did our part as Americans. the world will survive without our help and hopefully other countries will step up to help in time of the next disaster. its time we shift our efforts the and step out of the world picture and take care of our own problems.

 

Only reason companies like Chevron are dumping so much dough into alternative fuel and energy sources is that it's an investment in securing their stronghold on the economy.

Jewpac... I seem to agree with you a lot.

Solar panels take a long time to see turn around. As long as 15 years depending on your energy consumption. But if you're building a new house and have the dough it's a brilliant way to go. I'd do it. It rips on vacation homes because you don't use that much of the energy so it all dumps back in to the system. I talked to a guy when I was snowboarding that paid his off in 4 years or something like that.

 

we do and have been doing our part in terms of protecting the enviorment alot more than the other countries have. China and India should follow our example with emission regulations etc..

"We dont need oil to develop alternative energy sources, I dont know why you think that".

sure harness the sun, wind, water which were already doing and lets do more of it but without gas/diesal in your cars, trucks, planes, big rigs, etc.. our economy as we know it will literally stop overnight if we stopped pumping.

 

It does take a long time, but the period to see return on it could be shortened, even dramatically if Congress chose to do something about it and enact subsidies or tax benefits to those, especially large corporations, who choose to take a green energy route in exisiting buildings. In terms of new structures the cost of solar panels, or energy capturing windows is minimally higher than other materials.

 

Developing countries will pollute more than us, thats just the way it is, emission regulations will appear in China and India, especially as petroleum powered personal transportation becomes available to the masses in these countries.

Im well aware of our oil based economy, I know we can't stop pumping, but we rely on oil for much more than to just power our vehicles. Im not talking about alternative powered vehicles, but rather as a way to power homes and various other buildings.

 

sure lets power homes, other buildings, factories, etc.. with alternate energy i believe its alot easier to do that than trying to replace the millions of cars tomorrow with alternate powered vehicles my main focus is about the millions of consumers/indenpendent truckers who need to commute everyday and our struggling at the pump just trying to make a living.

 

Look at it this way.. china and india are where we were 80 years ago as far as industrializing except they know more about the pollutants than we did and still don't care.