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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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There's nothing wrong with the dirt - you can't really hurt the car, you know?
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... What?
What's gonna get damaged.. it's just dirt! I kick up gravel, so I guess I could put little scrapes in my paint job, but I've seen way more damage (busted suspension, mostly) from group drives on pavement than on dirt (basically, none). Hell, I've got more scrapes from cone eating than from dirt driving.

Short of flying off the road or hitting a babyhead-sized rock with your suspension, you're just gonna get mud all up in the bottom and in your wheels and those wash right out.

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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*see pansies thread*

Bunch 'o effin' pussies around here. Seriously. I just don't get all wheel drive "street" Subarus. They're bred for driving on the dirt folks!

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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*see pansies thread*

Bunch 'o effin' pussies around here. Seriously. I just don't get all wheel drive "street" Subarus. They're bred for driving on the dirt folks!

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exactly. what the heck is everyone worried about. they were made to do this sh*t.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by drtofu
What's gonna get damaged.. it's just dirt! I kick up gravel, so I guess I could put little scrapes in my paint job, but I've seen way more damage (busted suspension, mostly) from group drives on pavement than on dirt (basically, none). Hell, I've got more scrapes from cone eating than from dirt driving.

Short of flying off the road or hitting a babyhead-sized rock with your suspension, you're just gonna get mud all up in the bottom and in your wheels and those wash right out.
Oh man this is hilarious. You said "you can't really hurt the car you know" which is a really funny thing to say. Yes, driving in dirt is a BLAST and I have done a lot of it. The most I have ever done is dent the underside of my car, tear off part of a bumper and some other minor dents/scratches but this has been like 15 years of it, lots in cane fields in Hawaii which really screws up your car (fire).

Yes, it rocks. Yes, Subies are made for this. Yes I cannot wait till I get my 4x4 (not AWD) Suby back to go play in the dirt. Yes, it's fun - but to say you cannot hurt your car?? WTF? I mean, the car that this thread is about is shown driving around with part of it's bumper torn off. Truly - if you have not seen parts get torn off, mangled and even cars getting seriously screwed up then you have not really been offroading.

Every time we would go romping out at Hollister (Pathy, Jeep, etc) we always see someone limping out with broken parts. I saw someone seriously mess up their truck up on the playground. Wonder if someone told them nothing would break...

Originally Posted by eastbaysubaru
*see pansies thread*

Bunch 'o effin' pussies around here. Seriously. I just don't get all wheel drive "street" Subarus. They're bred for driving on the dirt folks!

-Brian
Yeah totally man. Hahaha.... I have done plenty of dirt driving in every one of the seven Subies I have had except for my last RS coupe. Honestly, if caring about and being into my car makes me a pansy in your eyes - that works for me.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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exactly. what the heck is everyone worried about. they were made to do this sh*t.
Post up a pic of your car after some offroading! I'd rather see dirty Subarus than more BS namecalling.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Post up a pic of your car after some offroading! I'd rather see dirty Subarus than more BS namecalling.
i have been dying to find a place to do that with my car. please tell me where to go. i posted the thread play in the mud looking for suggestions.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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GUY IN VIDEO: WHO PAID FOR YOUR CAR!

WHO F*CKING CARES???
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Yes, it's fun - but to say you cannot hurt your car?? WTF? I mean, the car that this thread is about is shown driving around with part of it's bumper torn off. Truly - if you have not seen parts get torn off, mangled and even cars getting seriously screwed up then you have not really been offroading.
"You can't really hurt the car" is what I wrote. Bumpers and plastic parts torn off are all cosmetic and are cheap and easy to fix. If you're worried about that, don't go full speed into a huge puddle!

So counting up the damage I've seen... I've seen an EVO bumper ripped off at a rallyX because it was so darn low, but the driver was jazzed it happened. I can't remember even cosmetic problems with Subarus except for when the car goes off. Have you seen anything more serious?

Maybe I'm just 'lucky', but I've seen far worse damage the paved group drives I've been on. Usually a car slides into a ditch and BAM! all the suspension bits are ripped out on one of the wheels.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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I wasn't talking to anyone specifically, just commenting on the general nature and tendencies of most people on this board towards driving on dirt and dirt drives in general.

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Truly - if you have not seen parts get torn off, mangled and even cars getting seriously screwed up then you have not really been offroading.
Final thought: I don't consider off-roading the same as driving in the dirt. I'm not talking about rock climbing, locked diff, extra-low gear type stuff. That sounds like fun but I don't think we've been talking about that.

Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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WHO F*CKING CARES???
whoa dude calm down

So youre saying its cool for mommy and daddy to buy their kids an STi and have them beat the hell out of it?

Its the spoiled brat test...that hasnt been confirmed yet

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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msgsti217: Looks like lots of fun mudding. Check out www.dirtyimpreza.com if you haven't already.

I hope you make it out to Ridgecrest for the school or rallyx on Sunday - they're both fun if you've never done them before. The school is pretty hardcore - lots to learn about reading notes etc., with separate dirt driving and co-driving breakout sessions. You'll probably be trying left-foot braking techniques, too.

www.formularallx.com is having lots of socal events this year - I bet you'd enjoy them. There's lots up here this year, too.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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msgsti217: Looks like lots of fun mudding. Check out www.dirtyimpreza.com if you haven't already.

I hope you make it out to Ridgecrest for the school or rallyx on Sunday - they're both fun if you've never done them before. The school is pretty hardcore - lots to learn about reading notes etc., with separate dirt driving and co-driving breakout sessions. You'll probably be trying left-foot braking techniques, too.

www.formularallx.com is having lots of socal events this year - I bet you'd enjoy them. There's lots up here this year, too.
yeah im part of dirtyimpreza and gone out to a few meets with their crew. i want to go out to ridgecrest but im not sure if ill be able to make it. are you heading down there?
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by msgsti217
yeah im part of dirtyimpreza and gone out to a few meets with their crew. i want to go out to ridgecrest but im not sure if ill be able to make it. are you heading down there?
Nope, but I went to the same type of school when it was held at Thunderhill.

The first day was rally school - morning was lots of explanation about how rallies work, how to read jemba and 'tulip' notes, how a rally is run and how you fit in as a team.

Second half is a breakout where drivers get seat time - how to do some 4-wheel drifting, left-foot braking, slalom. Co-drivers learn how recce, prep notes (very important) and control the driver.

Really get to appreciate how the driver is a twitch-monkey concerned with driving accurately and safely while the navigator is the brains of the operation.

The second day is rallycross where you can put some of your newfound driving skills to work.

Once you do this school, you'll understand what it takes to run in stage rally (rollcage required).

You'll also understand how to run in Time-Speed-Distance road rallies (on roads and no rollcage/helmet required) of which there are plenty in SoCal..

Speaking of which, ITN's 'training wheels' beginner road rally is the following week (23rd) which I recommend as well (this one happens in daylight) and is great fun.. and free for first-timers, I believe. This one happens on paved roads.
http://carzero.freeservers.com/upcoming.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...33938166576281

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
whoa dude calm down

So youre saying its cool for mommy and daddy to buy their kids an STi and have them beat the hell out of it?

Its the spoiled brat test...that hasnt been confirmed yet
LOL, you're telling me to calm down? How many times have you asked him the same question? He obviously doesn't want to answer the question (probably to avoid any drama). Who cares if he is lucky enough to have parents that bought him an expensive toy?

To answer your question, No, I would NEVER buy my child a sports car in their young age (to spare their lives) but please dont hate on somebody that is in that situation, it just comes across as jealousy.

Do you know this dude? Just because somebody is spoiled (aka, very fortunate) does not automatically mean they are a brat. Judging buy his posts, he seems very calm/reasonable.



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