What would it take to get ANY of you to enter a Rally?
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Originally Posted by slvrsubywgn
Do you have a direct link?
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Also some definitions might help since Rally is such a broad term:
Performance Rally = Usually customized cars - drive as fast as you can for lowest times, roll cage needed, as well as helmets and $$$ of mods. These are fun to watch, expensive to do.
TSD (Time, Speed, Distance) Road Rally = Daily drivers, brisk driving for accurate times, often on gravel, but also on paved roads. No helmets required. These are fun to do over a weekend. There are apparently plenty of these in the Pacific Northwest... all those logging roads.
Golden West is a TSD Road Rally and we used the logging roads and national forest roads in around Mt. Shasta, 4.5 hours north of San Francisco, near the Oregon border.
Performance Rally = Usually customized cars - drive as fast as you can for lowest times, roll cage needed, as well as helmets and $$$ of mods. These are fun to watch, expensive to do.
TSD (Time, Speed, Distance) Road Rally = Daily drivers, brisk driving for accurate times, often on gravel, but also on paved roads. No helmets required. These are fun to do over a weekend. There are apparently plenty of these in the Pacific Northwest... all those logging roads.
Golden West is a TSD Road Rally and we used the logging roads and national forest roads in around Mt. Shasta, 4.5 hours north of San Francisco, near the Oregon border.
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I've always thought of ralllying , like many, as a sport dangerous for the car. With all the rocks flying my paint might be chipped or my bottom will be damaged, that's why I wouldn't take my car out there, but if its paved roads or the roads like the ones in the pics, I'd definitely be interested. Maybe post pictures of the course and post on the regional forums about upcoming events because I never know what the schedule is like. And if it's paved roads i'm very sure my friends would be interested too.
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Originally Posted by slvrsubywgn
Do you have a direct link? I've always been interested, just never done it. Probably more apprehension than anything else. I thought they had super hardcore teams out there doing it...I didn't want to be the n00b running off the side of a cliff.
Links:
Golden West TSD Rally:
http://www.sfrscca.org/Rally/
Others:
The following websites are links for British Columbia, Canada and Pacific Northwest events and rallying in general:
http://www.rallybc.com/
http://www.oregonrally.com/
http://www.specialstage.com/
http://www.rainierautosports.com/
http://www.teamhightower.com/pcc/
Introduction to TSD Road Rally:
http://www.tsdroadrally.com (see the links on the left)
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bunch of pussies. ;P
I at least have a good excuse my GF was gimpified from having her gallbladder removed and needed an at home nurse. I didn't sleep the friday or saturday of GW2006. I really wanted to make it, but it would have been too selfish of me to ditch her.
I am already ditching her to go to DefCon the week before her birthday, then the two days after her birthday for auto-x.
I did pre-checks last year on ***-sagging Eibach springs and 17"s. There were several Subarus there running 17"s, as well as a 2004 Audi S4 running check points.
The golden west is a TSD rally, meaning, you are not trying for WRC speeds. I think the probability for damage is pretty low since it low speed gravel driving. When I went, the worst thing that happened was the old richley tuned, carberated Saab had issues with the higher elevation, and one car got lost cause I think the guy may have partied too much the night before.
I at least have a good excuse my GF was gimpified from having her gallbladder removed and needed an at home nurse. I didn't sleep the friday or saturday of GW2006. I really wanted to make it, but it would have been too selfish of me to ditch her.
I am already ditching her to go to DefCon the week before her birthday, then the two days after her birthday for auto-x.
I did pre-checks last year on ***-sagging Eibach springs and 17"s. There were several Subarus there running 17"s, as well as a 2004 Audi S4 running check points.
The golden west is a TSD rally, meaning, you are not trying for WRC speeds. I think the probability for damage is pretty low since it low speed gravel driving. When I went, the worst thing that happened was the old richley tuned, carberated Saab had issues with the higher elevation, and one car got lost cause I think the guy may have partied too much the night before.
You don't know me and my luck with deers... 
For me, I've done enough to know what kind of damages I could get. Assuming deer is not a problem. If I have an extra set of wheels/tires and front skid plate, I am there!
For me, I've done enough to know what kind of damages I could get. Assuming deer is not a problem. If I have an extra set of wheels/tires and front skid plate, I am there!
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The golden west is a TSD rally, meaning, you are not trying for WRC speeds. I think the probability for damage is pretty low since it low speed gravel driving. When I went, the worst thing that happened was the old richley tuned, carberated Saab had issues with the higher elevation, and one car got lost cause I think the guy may have partied too much the night before.
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I'm trying to make one last shot at it with a series of LOCAL all-paved short afternoon events next year, maybe one every other month or so- but it's going to need a lot of people checking it out for it to succeed, so I hope some of you will be there.
It's mostly the lack of disposable income that keeps us from entering more rallies.
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OK I can work on that too, but be careful what you wish for you just might get it,
(you should have said pretty naked women)
(you should have said pretty naked women)
young, legal, hot, naked women. Thank you.
Me personally:
-Time for such antics
-A car suitable for such antics
-Time
That would be about it. Always dreamed of such. Rally rules. I have held my own offroad runs in my older WRX as well as my first car ('88 RX). Something like a brighton L coupe would be perfect.
-Time for such antics
-A car suitable for such antics
-Time
That would be about it. Always dreamed of such. Rally rules. I have held my own offroad runs in my older WRX as well as my first car ('88 RX). Something like a brighton L coupe would be perfect.
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Originally Posted by psoper
I'm trying to make one last shot at it with a series of LOCAL all-paved short afternoon events next year, maybe one every other month or so- but it's going to need a lot of people checking it out for it to succeed, so I hope some of you will be there.
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Most of the roads were smooth gravel at 30-35mph. There was some tarmac, and a few low-speed rocky roads (20mph). Let me say this, there are few things more enjoyable than 8 hours of driving on gravel roads with a crowd of people. Beats the 1.5 minutes of seat time at the local autocross. It's a challenge, but not hard on the car.
If I'm gonna RACE, I want to RACE, and go FASTER than I can do so legally.
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Originally Posted by mcowger
Thats exactly why...I can go drive a gravel road at legal speeds with time contraints any day....its simply not an interesting form of competition to me.
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Originally Posted by psoper
I'd guess for that comment that you've never even tried one of these, but hey if you have the cash and gear to go racing, have at it
Every form of racing costs the same amount of money:
ALL OF IT.
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Originally Posted by mcowger
Thats exactly why...I can go drive a gravel road at legal speeds with time contraints any day....its simply not an interesting form of competition to me.
If I'm gonna RACE, I want to RACE, and go FASTER than I can do so legally.
If I'm gonna RACE, I want to RACE, and go FASTER than I can do so legally.
The speeds you're talking about would be tough on some of these these gravel roads without that safety equipment. Go wide on a corner and it's a few hundred feet off the road... Boom.
So much for your daily driver
However, going sane speeds, the roads are fine -- brisk on the straights, ginger in the turns. Got to make up times from the slow bits in the corners. Beautiful views, too. Saw lots of wild animals all over the place.
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I would love to do something like that, but I don't think my Azenis and coilovers would like it very much Also, I'm not to sure about the whole Time Speed Distance, I'm not saying I would want to go Solberg speed, but on roads like that, nice smooth gravel roads, I might want to go a bit faster.
How would a car set up for track days (road course) handle something like this, say if I put on my stock wheels?
Also, I'm not to sure about the whole Time Speed Distance, I'm not saying I would want to go Solberg speed, but on roads like that, nice smooth gravel roads, I might want to go a bit faster.How would a car set up for track days (road course) handle something like this, say if I put on my stock wheels?