Damnit.

 

For me personally it's just detrimental to the handling on roads like redwood, pinehurst etc.. The pavement is just to poor. Of course with awd of the subaru and good tires the car can still go fast, but relative it feels like ****.

For example I went from a stock sti to a ohlin strut/pinks setup (car bit the dust in a wreck later). New sti got zero 2'rs. Even set very gently, they were absolutely horrible on roads like pinehurst. Where ohlins or a stock setup makes you want to fly off bumps, coilovers make you feel like the car is always on the edge of control. I then got another set of ohlins/rce springs and dumped those awful things. Thank god.

If you like to go fast on smooth on ramps or at the track coilovers are cool, but thinking they "increase" your cars handling on bumpy **** canyon roads is just foolery.

It's pretty much as simple as doubling or tripling your stock spring rates.

 

The 03-07s all have the same size front bar, so it doesn't matter than you have an STI. Just having the rear bar definitely improves things, but I've tried it both ways. With the ALK and the front bar, the car is FAR smoother in steady state corners, however it does get a bit dartyin the front compared to just the rear bar in low speed tight turns and quick transitions if I go in too hot, but not where I feel like I am going to lose it. I can induce oversteer by applying throttle, so the car still isn't fully neutral, it is still favors the rear. I find having it closer to neutral makes it feel more controlled to me overall on the street, because what is best for the track/Auto-X isn't necessarily ideal for street. It is all about what you are comfortable with though. I know exactly what I want my car to feel like and what I want it to do the way I drive it.

I drove my buddy's E36 M3 with coils, and I've driven a few of them stock. I was surprised at how nice the coils felt just driving normal on smooth pavement, but as soon as you hit a bump WHOA! It was like being kicked in the teeth, and this car was clearly setup for track use, but damn, I would never drive something like that daily on the street (and we were on the street lol)

 

"Yesterday" put rack back on and tahoe'd few minutes later it dumped

 

Yeah agreed. I don't even mind the comfort of the ride, but I want to feel in control and suited to the roads I like to drive. For me I've never experienced a set of coilovers ranging from honda/subaru/vw/bmw that I have thought didn't make the car loose something on most roads with most drivers due to being to stiff / riding on the spring and the roads being too poor for the rates.

 

Ok well you guys need to drive mine once I finish setting it up. Then that way you can make a better educated opinion. No offense

My spring rate didn't triple. If anything it barely doubled. And now I don't feel like im driving a car that's attached to a cloud. It actually feels like its attached to the road now.

 

Hey man I agree with what your saying and trust me I know many coilovers are designed and made for track use and to utilize all of the features it probably is best left to track use.

BUT Many companies are now making street spec coilovers for street/semi racing use and many of my friends use them and have had no dramas and the handling is great for bumpy roads around town and in the country.. Not the best set up you can probably get I agree! Many strut/spring combos out perform coilovers for street use.

But it's having the options to choose hight and camber and dampening settings that is also a draw card for purchasing them as I said before compared to stock coilovers will perform amazingly

 

And that's all I'm saying lol thanks

 

So does your car oversteer at all? Mine does atm but I reckon once I install my coilovers and drop it down a little it will handle a lot better and have less movement in the wheels and body while cornering your 2 cents worth is good advice and another helpful opinion thanks buddy

 

Christ!!! that must be pretty fun occasionally in the rain lol

however that snap oversteer in a hard/long corner would be equallly intense as the bar

imo/from what ive collected from others balanced is ultimately the best.. you can still oversteer a balanced car, and in a much more controllable manner

 

Sprayed and installed the license plate bracket



Touch Up Paint on the really bad spot on the hood


Touch Up Paint on the GForces, if I get bothered I may end up getting some nice sand paper but for now this will suffice.
Also found some cheapo lug nuts from the Legacy, threw those on too.



Light reflection

 

Swapped Tsudo N1 back to stock...

 

Jinxed it!

 

Too loud??

 

Surgery needed.