What is the derivative f(x)=0?

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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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I went to UCSC Fall Quarter... but I transferred to Cal Poly Pomona this Winter.

It's for Business Calc. lol
woooow yeah, they would pull that on you at pomona. even in the business calc class. tsk tsk. To ask that question on a test requires a science related course and build up lectures. It makes much more sense to think about it in a purely mathematical or scientific sense. Since it's biz calc, all the problems are probably applied, in which case this test is just all about who read AND memorized every single passage and caveat in the book. Stupid way to learn, no?
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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woooow yeah, they would pull that on you at pomona. even in the business calc class. tsk tsk. To ask that question on a test requires a science related course and build up lectures. It makes much more sense to think about it in a purely mathematical or scientific sense. Since it's biz calc, all the problems are probably applied, in which case this test is just all about who read AND memorized every single passage and caveat in the book. Stupid way to learn, no?
Haha. Actually my math teacher is the best math teacher I have ever had. I know it's a curveball, but I think I got an A on the test either way.

He probably told us during lecture as a side note.
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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I don't doubt it. Their math dept is world reknown. I think it's stupid that biz calc classes are forced to "weed" out the lazies by resorting to such tricks. It's a cheap shot.
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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I don't doubt it. Their math dept is world reknown. I think it's stupid that biz calc classes are forced to "weed" out the lazies by resorting to such tricks. It's a cheap shot.
Meh. The test was easy overall. Not going to lie.
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This is pretty entertaining... But a little sad too.

Originally Posted by fizay
I don't doubt it. Their math dept is world reknown. I think it's stupid that biz calc classes are forced to "weed" out the lazies by resorting to such tricks. It's a cheap shot.
It doesn't really weed out the lazies, just people who don't learn well that way or didn't get it for whatever reason. Everyone's different and some instructors don't seem to get that if the student didn't learn, it's not always because they are a "bad student" whatever that is..
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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That's good then. My calc tests were 2 sheets of paper, 4 problems, 70 minutes. If you botched a single stage of the differentiation or something you were ****ed. I ****ING HATED THAT ****. I ain't no Good Will Hunting.
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
This is pretty entertaining... But a little sad too.



It doesn't really weed out the lazies, just people who don't learn well that way or didn't get it for whatever reason. Everyone's different and some instructors don't seem to get that if the student didn't learn, it's not always because they are a "bad student" whatever that is..
Sorry when I hear biz calc, that's applied calculus. Word problems, etc. f(x) = 0, what is f'(x) = to? is a theory problem.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Rob
Haha. Actually my math teacher is the best math teacher I have ever had. I know it's a curveball, but I think I got an A on the test either way.

He probably told us during lecture as a side note.
Who's your math teacher? I just graduated from there in '09.

Pertaining to your question though, if the function is f(x) = 0, then f'(x) = 0. Unless this is a trick question, it's not a curveball. The derivative is the rate of change (in y in terms of x, thus dy/dx) at that exact point in the function. However, if f(x) = 0, then you have a straight horizontal line, because no matter what value you put in for x, the end result is 0. Therefore, you will have no change in the values of y, as you move along x. Which, results in 0 as your derivative. This is the same for f(x) = 1, or 2, or 3 any constant.
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
Who's your math teacher? I just graduated from there in '09.

Pertaining to your question though, if the function is f(x) = 0, then f'(x) = 0. Unless this is a trick question, it's not a curveball. The derivative is the rate of change (in y in terms of x, thus dy/dx) at that exact point in the function. However, if f(x) = 0, then you have a straight horizontal line, because no matter what value you put in for x, the end result is 0. Therefore, you will have no change in the values of y, as you move along x. Which, results in 0 as your derivative. This is the same for f(x) = 1, or 2, or 3 any constant.
Frank Ives.

Thats what I assumed. But I guess I won't "really" know until Tuesday.
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I don't doubt it. Their math dept is world reknown. I think it's stupid that biz calc classes are forced to "weed" out the lazies by resorting to such tricks. It's a cheap shot.
Did you know this "renown" math department was almost shut down because they lost something around 12 million dollars, and the day before they were going to fire all of their math professors it "magically" reappeared in the account?
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Originally Posted by Turbo Rob
Frank Ives.

Thats what I assumed. But I guess I won't "really" know until Tuesday.
Hmm, no idea who that is. And I know almost the entire math department...

It's a pretty straight forward problem. Now, if it was to find the integral of f(x)=0, then that might stump some biz calc students, since it's c.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
Who's your math teacher? I just graduated from there in '09.

Pertaining to your question though, if the function is f(x) = 0, then f'(x) = 0. Unless this is a trick question, it's not a curveball. The derivative is the rate of change (in y in terms of x, thus dy/dx) at that exact point in the function. However, if f(x) = 0, then you have a straight horizontal line, because no matter what value you put in for x, the end result is 0. Therefore, you will have no change in the values of y, as you move along x. Which, results in 0 as your derivative. This is the same for f(x) = 1, or 2, or 3 any constant.
This. Derivative of any constant = 0.

Went through 4 semesters of Calculus (1, 2, 3, DiffEq) and I'll never forget how to differentiate or integrate .
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
Hmm, no idea who that is. And I know almost the entire math department...

It's a pretty straight forward problem. Now, if it was to find the integral of f(x)=0, then that might stump some biz calc students, since it's c.
He teaches at a bunch of different schools. I think he only teaches Business Calc and Diff. Eq. at CPP.
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http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...e+f%28x%29%3D0

very useful website (I work there). Use it to check any of your calculus answers!



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