Warriors thread
The Bobcats are interested in Sjax. The possible trades are:
Boris Diaw for Sjax (Bobcats want Turiaf packaged in the deal not a straight up trade between Diaw and Jackson though) Diaw's contract is 2 years, Jackson's is 3 years. Bobcats coach and Diaw don't get along at all.
or
Nazr Mohammed and Vladimir Radmonovic (both 2 year contracts) for Sjax, Acie Law, and Devean George. Law and George are expiring contracts
Problems:
Bobcats want Sjax, but want Turiaf as well
Warriors would like Diaw, but want to keep Turiaf
Bobcats 1st priority is to move Mohammed and Radmonovic
Boris Diaw for Sjax (Bobcats want Turiaf packaged in the deal not a straight up trade between Diaw and Jackson though) Diaw's contract is 2 years, Jackson's is 3 years. Bobcats coach and Diaw don't get along at all.
or
Nazr Mohammed and Vladimir Radmonovic (both 2 year contracts) for Sjax, Acie Law, and Devean George. Law and George are expiring contracts
Problems:
Bobcats want Sjax, but want Turiaf as well
Warriors would like Diaw, but want to keep Turiaf
Bobcats 1st priority is to move Mohammed and Radmonovic
Last edited by TurnWRX; Nov 5, 2009 at 05:49 PM.
The Bobcats are interested in Sjax. The possible trades are:
Boris Diaw for Sjax (Bobcats want Turiaf packaged in the deal not a straight up trade between Diaw and Jackson though) Diaw's contract is 2 years, Jackson's is 3 years. Bobcats coach and Diaw don't get along at all.
or
Nazr Mohammed and Vladimir Radmonovic (both 2 year contracts) for Sjax, Acie Law, and Devean George. Law and George are expiring contracts
Problems:
Bobcats want Sjax, but want Turiaf as well
Warriors would like Diaw, but want to keep Turiaf
Bobcats 1st priority is to move Mohammed and Radmonovic
Boris Diaw for Sjax (Bobcats want Turiaf packaged in the deal not a straight up trade between Diaw and Jackson though) Diaw's contract is 2 years, Jackson's is 3 years. Bobcats coach and Diaw don't get along at all.
or
Nazr Mohammed and Vladimir Radmonovic (both 2 year contracts) for Sjax, Acie Law, and Devean George. Law and George are expiring contracts
Problems:
Bobcats want Sjax, but want Turiaf as well
Warriors would like Diaw, but want to keep Turiaf
Bobcats 1st priority is to move Mohammed and Radmonovic
Wow yesterday's game was absolutely horrible. I don't think I've seen such poor performance from the Warriors on their home court. Don Nelson really needs to go. And Sjax. And Ellis. And Maggette.
None of the warriors could hit the broad side of a barn yesterday. Hell, I could shoot better than that lol.
Nellie: Needs to be fired. It's like he's tanking the team through his coaching decisions. He doesn't even play AR much either.
Then there's Sjax. Instead of launching 3s (some of them wide open) he drives the ball into a crowd (of 3 defenders right in front of him) and turns it over or misses badly. He's been doing this since game 1. Purposely losing the ball in traffic, or throwing up bad shots when the defense smothers him
Ellis: Has talent but no purpose. Like Sjax, is disgruntled and shoots poorly (wide open jump shots that miss badly (i.e mid range shots that line drives straight to the back of the rim and bounces 15-20 feet off the rim). Don't even get me started with his defense....
Maggette: Can't shoot for isht either. Doesn't play defense. Since he gets more than half his points from free throws, if he's not getting to the line, he sucks and is worthless to the team because he can't shoot.
This game against the Clips is a sign of things to come. If they can't beat under .500 teams, they'll be lucky if they even get 25 wins this season. Hell, it would be funny if Nelson doesn't get his 24 wins to become winning-ess coach of all time.
None of the warriors could hit the broad side of a barn yesterday. Hell, I could shoot better than that lol.
Nellie: Needs to be fired. It's like he's tanking the team through his coaching decisions. He doesn't even play AR much either.
Then there's Sjax. Instead of launching 3s (some of them wide open) he drives the ball into a crowd (of 3 defenders right in front of him) and turns it over or misses badly. He's been doing this since game 1. Purposely losing the ball in traffic, or throwing up bad shots when the defense smothers him
Ellis: Has talent but no purpose. Like Sjax, is disgruntled and shoots poorly (wide open jump shots that miss badly (i.e mid range shots that line drives straight to the back of the rim and bounces 15-20 feet off the rim). Don't even get me started with his defense....

Maggette: Can't shoot for isht either. Doesn't play defense. Since he gets more than half his points from free throws, if he's not getting to the line, he sucks and is worthless to the team because he can't shoot.
This game against the Clips is a sign of things to come. If they can't beat under .500 teams, they'll be lucky if they even get 25 wins this season. Hell, it would be funny if Nelson doesn't get his 24 wins to become winning-ess coach of all time.
On another note, even if the Bobcats trade happens, I don't think Sjax would approve of it. Although I don't know if that makes a difference.
Miami is interested in Sjax. We'll see who Miami offers up in exhange.
Miami is interested in Sjax. We'll see who Miami offers up in exhange.
The warriors once again, lose badly to a bad team. I can't tell whose worse, the Warriors or the Raiders lol. Probably the Warriors since the Raiders have won 1 more game than the Dubs lol 
At this point you have to wonder how Don Nelson hasn't been fired yet. The whole team is quietly (others not so quiet) revolting against Nellie, tanking as best they can. And Nellie doesn't seem to care. With the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Nellie doesn't pass Lenny Wilkens this season as winningest coach (before or after he gets fired? lol)
Now for some news:
As I said previously, the Bobcats were interested in SJax but I was worried it might not happen cause Sjax would most likely refuse to go there (again I don't know if he can void a trade just because he doesn't like it).
But now, Sjax's agent Mark Stevens wants him traded. Now. Anywhere. Just as long as he gets out of GS. So I am assuming Sjax will not object to any trade, even to another losing team. Stevens also blasted Nellie as being the main source of problems for the Warriors turmoil the past 2 seasons. Read the Espn article below for the full story.
If you watched yesterday's game, Ellis will probably want out next. Judging by his body language, he's just as pissed off as Sjax is. Even during last night's post game interview, he was laughing while being asked why the Warriors are so bad this season. I'm going to guess he'll demand to be traded and the Warriors will try to trade him after this season's over.
Now for the Espn article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4636820
Chris Broussard

At this point you have to wonder how Don Nelson hasn't been fired yet. The whole team is quietly (others not so quiet) revolting against Nellie, tanking as best they can. And Nellie doesn't seem to care. With the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Nellie doesn't pass Lenny Wilkens this season as winningest coach (before or after he gets fired? lol)
Now for some news:
As I said previously, the Bobcats were interested in SJax but I was worried it might not happen cause Sjax would most likely refuse to go there (again I don't know if he can void a trade just because he doesn't like it).
But now, Sjax's agent Mark Stevens wants him traded. Now. Anywhere. Just as long as he gets out of GS. So I am assuming Sjax will not object to any trade, even to another losing team. Stevens also blasted Nellie as being the main source of problems for the Warriors turmoil the past 2 seasons. Read the Espn article below for the full story.
If you watched yesterday's game, Ellis will probably want out next. Judging by his body language, he's just as pissed off as Sjax is. Even during last night's post game interview, he was laughing while being asked why the Warriors are so bad this season. I'm going to guess he'll demand to be traded and the Warriors will try to trade him after this season's over.
Now for the Espn article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4636820
Chris Broussard
In an effort to get Golden State's disgruntled swingman Stephen Jackson traded as soon as possible, Jackson's agent, Mark Stevens, has gone on the offensive, attacking the credibility and character of Warriors coach Don Nelson.
In a telephone interview just moments after the Warriors lost to the Sacramento Kings Sunday night, Stevens lambasted Nelson, criticizing everything from his trustworthiness to his coaching ability. Leaving few stones unturned, Stevens gave his take on some controversies in Nelson's 31-year NBA coaching career.
"No one trusts Don Nelson," Stevens said. "When Nelson was in Milwaukee, Wayne Embry trusted him and brought him in, and he betrayed Embry. In Dallas, Mark Cuban took damn good care of him and his son [Donnie Nelson Jr.], and he betrayed Cuban. In Golden State, Chris Mullin hired him and trusted him and Nelson backstabbed him by reaching out to president Robert Rowell and blaming Mullin for everything that was going wrong with the Warriors."
Stevens was referring to claims by Embry, the first African-American general manager in professional sports, that Nelson made a racist remark after Embry gave him his first coaching position with the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1970s. Nelson vehemently denied making the remark.
Nelson sued Cuban, the Dallas Mavericks owner, after Nelson was hired to coach the Warriors in 2006. Nelson, who resigned as the Mavericks coach in 2004, sought deferred money he claimed to be owed from Dallas' previous owner, Ross Perot Jr. The feud turned ugly and an arbitrator ruled Cuban had to pay Nelson $6.3 million.
Mullin, who played for Nelson during the coach's first stint in Golden State in the 1990s, hired Nelson to return to the Warriors after Mullin had become the club's general manger. But the relationship between Mullin and Nelson soon soured and Mullin's contract was not renewed after last season.
Stevens did not hide his motives for disparaging Nelson, who needs just 23 wins to move past Lenny Wilkens as the NBA's all-time winningest coach. He wants Jackson, who demanded a trade over the summer, out of Golden State as soon as possible. While the Warriors have said they will seek a trade, Stevens, and presumably Jackson, has grown tired of waiting.
When he made his initial request in August, Jackson said he wanted to be traded to Cleveland, New York or any of the three teams in Texas (Dallas, San Antonio and Houston). Jackson was fined $25,000 by the league for publicly requesting a trade.
Now Stevens says anywhere will do.
"I just want him out of there now," Stevens said. "It doesn't matter where. At this stage, something has to be done. It can't get any worse."
Cleveland, Miami, Denver and Charlotte have been mentioned as possible destinations for Jackson.
As recently as October, Jackson was a Warriors captain. But during a preseason game against the Lakers, Jackson picked up five fouls and a technical in fewer than 10 minutes and was pulled from the game. He had a testy exchange with Nelson on the floor and was sent to the locker room. He was then stripped of his captaincy.
Stevens said his anger over his client's situation grew while he was watching the Warriors lose 120-107 to the Kings. It was Golden State's fourth loss in five games this season. Jackson led all Warriors scorers with 21 points.
"I'm disgusted with the quality of Nelson's coaching and with the lack of trust his players have in him," he said. "Nelson is the winningest coach in NBA history to never have coached in the NBA Finals, let alone won a championship. Yet he keeps getting jobs despite being 69 years old."
Jackson came to the Warriors in a 2007 trade with the Indiana Pacers. No stranger to controversy himself, he was suspended 30 games for his role in the 2004 Pacers-Pistons brawl at The Palace at of Auburn Hills. But he's put up his best numbers for the Warriors, last year averaging 20.7 points, 5.1 rebounds and 6.5 assists.
Stevens blamed Nelson for the breakup of the promising Warriors team that upset top-seeded Dallas in the first round of the 2007 playoffs. The breakup of that squad is one of the main reasons Jackson wants to go elsewhere, according to his agent.
"Chris Mullin wanted to re-sign Baron Davis, but Nelson nipped that in the bud," Stevens said. "Then he helped put together the trade that got rid of Jason Richardson. Then the Warriors lost Matt Barnes. Nelson loses the trust of all his players."
Warriors general manager Larry Riley could not be reached for comment.
In a telephone interview just moments after the Warriors lost to the Sacramento Kings Sunday night, Stevens lambasted Nelson, criticizing everything from his trustworthiness to his coaching ability. Leaving few stones unturned, Stevens gave his take on some controversies in Nelson's 31-year NBA coaching career.
"No one trusts Don Nelson," Stevens said. "When Nelson was in Milwaukee, Wayne Embry trusted him and brought him in, and he betrayed Embry. In Dallas, Mark Cuban took damn good care of him and his son [Donnie Nelson Jr.], and he betrayed Cuban. In Golden State, Chris Mullin hired him and trusted him and Nelson backstabbed him by reaching out to president Robert Rowell and blaming Mullin for everything that was going wrong with the Warriors."
Stevens was referring to claims by Embry, the first African-American general manager in professional sports, that Nelson made a racist remark after Embry gave him his first coaching position with the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1970s. Nelson vehemently denied making the remark.
Nelson sued Cuban, the Dallas Mavericks owner, after Nelson was hired to coach the Warriors in 2006. Nelson, who resigned as the Mavericks coach in 2004, sought deferred money he claimed to be owed from Dallas' previous owner, Ross Perot Jr. The feud turned ugly and an arbitrator ruled Cuban had to pay Nelson $6.3 million.
Mullin, who played for Nelson during the coach's first stint in Golden State in the 1990s, hired Nelson to return to the Warriors after Mullin had become the club's general manger. But the relationship between Mullin and Nelson soon soured and Mullin's contract was not renewed after last season.
Stevens did not hide his motives for disparaging Nelson, who needs just 23 wins to move past Lenny Wilkens as the NBA's all-time winningest coach. He wants Jackson, who demanded a trade over the summer, out of Golden State as soon as possible. While the Warriors have said they will seek a trade, Stevens, and presumably Jackson, has grown tired of waiting.
When he made his initial request in August, Jackson said he wanted to be traded to Cleveland, New York or any of the three teams in Texas (Dallas, San Antonio and Houston). Jackson was fined $25,000 by the league for publicly requesting a trade.
Now Stevens says anywhere will do.
"I just want him out of there now," Stevens said. "It doesn't matter where. At this stage, something has to be done. It can't get any worse."
Cleveland, Miami, Denver and Charlotte have been mentioned as possible destinations for Jackson.
As recently as October, Jackson was a Warriors captain. But during a preseason game against the Lakers, Jackson picked up five fouls and a technical in fewer than 10 minutes and was pulled from the game. He had a testy exchange with Nelson on the floor and was sent to the locker room. He was then stripped of his captaincy.
Stevens said his anger over his client's situation grew while he was watching the Warriors lose 120-107 to the Kings. It was Golden State's fourth loss in five games this season. Jackson led all Warriors scorers with 21 points.
"I'm disgusted with the quality of Nelson's coaching and with the lack of trust his players have in him," he said. "Nelson is the winningest coach in NBA history to never have coached in the NBA Finals, let alone won a championship. Yet he keeps getting jobs despite being 69 years old."
Jackson came to the Warriors in a 2007 trade with the Indiana Pacers. No stranger to controversy himself, he was suspended 30 games for his role in the 2004 Pacers-Pistons brawl at The Palace at of Auburn Hills. But he's put up his best numbers for the Warriors, last year averaging 20.7 points, 5.1 rebounds and 6.5 assists.
Stevens blamed Nelson for the breakup of the promising Warriors team that upset top-seeded Dallas in the first round of the 2007 playoffs. The breakup of that squad is one of the main reasons Jackson wants to go elsewhere, according to his agent.
"Chris Mullin wanted to re-sign Baron Davis, but Nelson nipped that in the bud," Stevens said. "Then he helped put together the trade that got rid of Jason Richardson. Then the Warriors lost Matt Barnes. Nelson loses the trust of all his players."
Warriors general manager Larry Riley could not be reached for comment.
Last edited by TurnWRX; Nov 9, 2009 at 07:33 AM.
Kinda awkward, a complete 180 turn with the Warriors blowing out the T-Wolves by 41 points. But then again, the T-Wolves suck and play no defense as well.
Some news:
Andris Biedrins is out indefinitely with back pain, groin pain, and abdominal muscle pain. He will be evaluated in 2 weeks.
Ticket sales for yesterday's game fell to an all time low of 15,xxx in attendance. Their average attendance for home games is around 18,xxx. This year's attendance was an average of 17,xxx.
Chris Cohan, it's time to sell the team.
Some news:
Andris Biedrins is out indefinitely with back pain, groin pain, and abdominal muscle pain. He will be evaluated in 2 weeks.
Ticket sales for yesterday's game fell to an all time low of 15,xxx in attendance. Their average attendance for home games is around 18,xxx. This year's attendance was an average of 17,xxx.
Chris Cohan, it's time to sell the team.
Finally, SJax is gone!
Stephen Jackson (along with Acie Law) was traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic. Raja Bell is an expiring contract and Radmonovic has 2 seasons left on his contract.
Now time to ship Monta Ellis, Maggette, and Nellie out as well.
Stephen Jackson (along with Acie Law) was traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic. Raja Bell is an expiring contract and Radmonovic has 2 seasons left on his contract.
Now time to ship Monta Ellis, Maggette, and Nellie out as well.
Last edited by TurnWRX; Nov 16, 2009 at 07:53 PM.
Now I wonder whose going to guard the league's best players, now that Sjax is gone, and Kelenna Azabuike suffering a potential season ending knee injury. Raja Bell won't be helpful anytime soon, as he has a nagging wrist injury and will undergo surgery to repair it once he's with the Warriors.
Some other news:
CJ Watson got tested positive for swine flu
Allen Iverson and Memphis mutually agree that Iverson will be waived. Iverson will become a unrestricted free agent in a couple days.
CJ Watson got tested positive for swine flu
Allen Iverson and Memphis mutually agree that Iverson will be waived. Iverson will become a unrestricted free agent in a couple days.
Now that Sjax has left, Monta Ellis, through his agent, wants out of Golden State immediately as well. Monta's agent will meet with Rowell and Riley this Thursday, to discuss possible trade options.
Anthony Randolph has been growing frustrated at his inconsistent playing time, or lack thereof. He also does not want to play the center position, which Nellie keeps making him do. Randolph's agent has met with Riley a couple weeks ago to discuss Randolph's unhappiness and possibly a trade.
Anthony Randolph has been growing frustrated at his inconsistent playing time, or lack thereof. He also does not want to play the center position, which Nellie keeps making him do. Randolph's agent has met with Riley a couple weeks ago to discuss Randolph's unhappiness and possibly a trade.
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This is the part where those players leave only to flourish into all-star caliber players once they're gone. It's 1995-2003 all over again. With Randolph, they either need to get a big, QUICK, and/or stop dorking around with his minutes with stupid mind games. He's young, he'll make mistakes on the court, let him learn that way Nellie!


