Soldier opens fire @ Fort Hood killing 12!!!
11-06-2009, 01:44 PM
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I stopped reading right here.....
His anger was noted by a classmate, who said Hasan "viewed the war against terror" as a "war against Islam."
11-06-2009, 03:34 PM
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Relatives said he felt harassed because of his Muslim faith but did not embrace extremism. Others were not so sure. A recent classmate said Hasan once gave a jarring presentation to students in which he argued the war on terrorism was a war against Islam, and "made himself a lightning rod for things" when he felt his religious beliefs were challenged.
Funny, you don't see Hindu/Christian/Jewish/Buddhist armed forces members shootin' up the place....
11-06-2009, 03:34 PM
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Just read on SF Gate that one of the victims was "a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home."
there should be a rule - for any jihadist that is found to be responsible for innocent deaths, that all members of their immediate family should suffer the same consequences of their actions - that way, they would know what it's like to destroy their family before they think about destroying others' families
there should be a rule - for any jihadist that is found to be responsible for innocent deaths, that all members of their immediate family should suffer the same consequences of their actions - that way, they would know what it's like to destroy their family before they think about destroying others' families
11-06-2009, 03:56 PM
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Just read on SF Gate that one of the victims was "a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home."
there should be a rule - for any jihadist that is found to be responsible for innocent deaths, that all members of their immediate family should suffer the same consequences of their actions - that way, they would know what it's like to destroy their family before they think about destroying others' families
there should be a rule - for any jihadist that is found to be responsible for innocent deaths, that all members of their immediate family should suffer the same consequences of their actions - that way, they would know what it's like to destroy their family before they think about destroying others' families
I can only imagine that a policy like that would only motivate an extremist even more.
11-06-2009, 04:03 PM
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Here we go again (From SALDEF):
November 6, 2009 (Washington, DC) - Our national Sikh organizations offer our deepest condolences to the families and friends of those killed and wounded in the acts of violence at Fort Hood, Texas yesterday that left 13 dead and 31 wounded. We unequivocally condemn the actions of the alleged assailant.
We are united in concern and sympathy for the victims and their families, and for the community at Fort Hood. We urge community members to explore how they can provide support and resources to address the impact of this violence.
As Sikhs, we are regrettably aware that, in the past, similar tragedies have led to the scapegoating of entire communities based on actual or perceived ethnicity, religion, and national origin. We call on political leaders, the media, and the public to set a tone of unity as the investigation unfolds and the healing process begins.
We also join together to offer the following recommendations for the Sikh community in order to stay safe from possible misguided retributive violence:
(1) Be Street Smart to Keep Yourself Safe
(2) Develop Proactive Relationships with Local Law Enforcement
· Contact your local police department
· Ask them to work with your community on hate crimes prevention
· Ask them to step up patrols around local Gurdwaras
Here is a sample message that you can use via email or telephone:
Based on the apparent ethnicity of the assailant in the Fort Hood shootings, I am concerned about the possibility of backlash against members of the Arab, Muslim, Sikh, and South Asian communities. Please ensure that an emergency bulletin is issued to local law enforcement agencies and community members to ensure that police officers and the communities they serve take appropriate precautionary measures.
We are united in concern and sympathy for the victims and their families, and for the community at Fort Hood. We urge community members to explore how they can provide support and resources to address the impact of this violence.
As Sikhs, we are regrettably aware that, in the past, similar tragedies have led to the scapegoating of entire communities based on actual or perceived ethnicity, religion, and national origin. We call on political leaders, the media, and the public to set a tone of unity as the investigation unfolds and the healing process begins.
We also join together to offer the following recommendations for the Sikh community in order to stay safe from possible misguided retributive violence:
(1) Be Street Smart to Keep Yourself Safe
(2) Develop Proactive Relationships with Local Law Enforcement
· Contact your local police department
· Ask them to work with your community on hate crimes prevention
· Ask them to step up patrols around local Gurdwaras
Here is a sample message that you can use via email or telephone:
Based on the apparent ethnicity of the assailant in the Fort Hood shootings, I am concerned about the possibility of backlash against members of the Arab, Muslim, Sikh, and South Asian communities. Please ensure that an emergency bulletin is issued to local law enforcement agencies and community members to ensure that police officers and the communities they serve take appropriate precautionary measures.
11-06-2009, 04:08 PM
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Trust me, Hindus as a majority do NOT like Sikhs all that much in India. Much massacre has happened due to that very tension. Hindu vs Muslim... Muslim vs Christian, Christian vs Muslim. Eastern European countries, esp former soviet countries face these things all the time. Philippines too.
But yeah, in the US, you really don't see that.
11-06-2009, 04:48 PM
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Well, not in this country anyways. All of those religions have had violence for the same reasons in the past, or still do to this day in other countrys.
Trust me, Hindus as a majority do NOT like Sikhs all that much in India. Much massacre has happened due to that very tension. Hindu vs Muslim... Muslim vs Christian, Christian vs Muslim. Eastern European countries, esp former soviet countries face these things all the time. Philippines too.
But yeah, in the US, you really don't see that.
Trust me, Hindus as a majority do NOT like Sikhs all that much in India. Much massacre has happened due to that very tension. Hindu vs Muslim... Muslim vs Christian, Christian vs Muslim. Eastern European countries, esp former soviet countries face these things all the time. Philippines too.
But yeah, in the US, you really don't see that.
11-06-2009, 04:55 PM
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In the second statement, it appears that the guy cared about SOME people enough to wish them goodbye, so I would assume that meant that he cared about his family too. Perhaps, if such a consequence existed that would affect his loved ones, this guy might not have gone on the rampage that he did.
11-07-2009, 09:35 PM
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Here come the liberals blaming the military for the shooting...
This guy was at walter reed and got bounced because of to many poor efficiency reports. Definitely not a "discrimination case". But he's muslim... so he can never be at fault. Nope. The military forced him to do this...
This guy was at walter reed and got bounced because of to many poor efficiency reports. Definitely not a "discrimination case". But he's muslim... so he can never be at fault. Nope. The military forced him to do this...
11-07-2009, 10:06 PM
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Uhh. I'm pretty rational too. The dude didn't want to fight other Muslims. Instead of not fighting at all, he decided to kill and wound dozens of others.
He shot people because of his religion, plain and simple. We are at war with fanatical islam and if you don't think you can do your job then you shouldn't be in our military. He took $$$ of paid education and sat and gained benefits for years.
He should have Allah Akbar'ed his own face instead of ruining others, damn piece of crap.
We are Americans, we cannot turn our heads away and not ask the real questions when things touch that little racism line. We have to ask the obvious questions to protect our own people. We have to act and not sit there while this guy praised suicide bombings.
In any case, I hope he gets the death penalty within 5 yrs.
He shot people because of his religion, plain and simple. We are at war with fanatical islam and if you don't think you can do your job then you shouldn't be in our military. He took $$$ of paid education and sat and gained benefits for years.
He should have Allah Akbar'ed his own face instead of ruining others, damn piece of crap.
We are Americans, we cannot turn our heads away and not ask the real questions when things touch that little racism line. We have to ask the obvious questions to protect our own people. We have to act and not sit there while this guy praised suicide bombings.
In any case, I hope he gets the death penalty within 5 yrs.
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