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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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I mean, it's a ****ing NATURAL cycle. it was there before humans got there, and it will be there after we leave this place.

At some point you have to realize that they take a huge gamble by living there, and that's their CHOICE to live there, knowing that this happens every year. We live in an area that's going to get rocked by huge quakes every century. We have to take that risk, just like people who live in tornado alley, or where blizzards happen, or where hurricanes happen. or flooding.

They took the risk. We can help as much as we can cause we should, it's the RIGHT thing to do. But don't say they are completely helpless, they choose to live there.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
What if the fire is Karma happening? How do you know it's not?

Those people never learn, that's why they have fires every year, and then mudslides in the winter.

I'm pretty sure it's a sign... like, oh snaps, don't live in an area that was once a COMPLETE, desolate, barren desert.

They take water from up here, use the most energy in the state to pump that water into that basin, to create the hell pit called Southern California.

I feel bad, I don't want their homes to be lost. But seriously, don't you think people will learn that it's not going to change...

I mean, I'm dead serious... Malibu has fires every year, and when it rains, they have mudslides, yet, all these people STILL rebuild there, year after year. I just have to stop feeling bad for them at some point.
yeah, i totally agree, but karma is two sided (if that makes any sense). i bet a lot of houses are going to be up for sale in the near future (whenever this fire gets put out)
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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That's a lot of smoks....

Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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^LOL mexico's fire is brown ROFLLLLLLLLLLL!
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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^LOL mexico's fire is brown ROFLLLLLLLLLLL!
you didn't have to go there... (but definitely a good observation)
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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actually, i think its a dust storm. look farther down the baja peninsula and you will see that there is more brown dust/smoke flowing off the land onto the ocean.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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i think the lower part is a dust storm, but that concentrated stream above it is definately gases from a frijole eating contest.
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Well this should raise the planets temperature by a couple of degrees.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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this is pretty crazy:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?uid=1...2d7e7e7af51aaa
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
What if the fire is Karma happening? How do you know it's not?

Those people never learn, that's why they have fires every year, and then mudslides in the winter.

I'm pretty sure it's a sign... like, oh snaps, don't live in an area that was once a COMPLETE, desolate, barren desert.

They take water from up here, use the most energy in the state to pump that water into that basin, to create the hell pit called Southern California.

I feel bad, I don't want their homes to be lost. But seriously, don't you think people will learn that it's not going to change...

I mean, I'm dead serious... Malibu has fires every year, and when it rains, they have mudslides, yet, all these people STILL rebuild there, year after year. I just have to stop feeling bad for them at some point.

There are ways to prevent fire. But down there its very difficult to achieve..

they can do controlled fires in the off season to help prevent tons of fuel being ready to ignite.. but the problem with that is.. you risk flooding..
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how does it cause flooding? from erosion?
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ya erosion occurs.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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guess they need to build more mtn roads for fire breaks and access, and cut all the trees down within 100 feet of the road....nothing better than a widy road with no trees blocking your view

dont know when they will build a road out of SJ that cuts over to I5...if they had one, the Lick fire wouldve been easier to access, since they had like 1 main dirt road and no access to it.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
guess they need to build more mtn roads for fire breaks and access, and cut all the trees down within 100 feet of the road....nothing better than a widy road with no trees blocking your view

dont know when they will build a road out of SJ that cuts over to I5...if they had one, the Lick fire wouldve been easier to access, since they had like 1 main dirt road and no access to it.
SJ has a road out to I5. Just drive up and over Mt. Hamy.
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Originally Posted by evsoul
There are ways to prevent fire. But down there its very difficult to achieve..

they can do controlled fires in the off season to help prevent tons of fuel being ready to ignite.. but the problem with that is.. you risk flooding..
We try what we can, but we cannot stop Santa Ana winds. they speed up as they descend from the plateau above the southern California bowl. This heats the air up from compression.

and when you have a pressure gradient like the last few days we end up super dry, hot air that moves nearly 100mph. this happens every year sadly. I think it's much better to keep the vegetation down then to let it burn away, at least there is still some rooted vegetation to help avoid some of the mudslides.

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