So I got my first traffic ticket today

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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fight by written declaration... that way if the pig does decide to take the case then he wont get paid. they get paid to go to court but not to write the written declatation thing.
bad cop no donut
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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i would just take traffic school before you don't have a choice..... it is possible that they will reject your request for traffic school after wwritten declaration...
trust me... i speak from experience. I have court for my 3rd and 4th point the next couple months.
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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beacuse

Originally Posted by TurnWRX
So why did the cop give me a fix it ticket? My catback isn't very loud and complies with the 95 dB law.
Because California is a circus.(j/k).

Tell me. Do the cops go after all the SUV's that guzzle gas and polute much more than a modified exhaust on a WRX?

I read on I-club how you poor bastards get pulled over all the time in CA just because you are into your car and work on it. Fun harmless hobbie, right? It is obvious to me the cops are using that law to pull you over for little "probable cause".
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Tell me. Do the cops go after all the SUV's that guzzle gas and polute much more than a modified exhaust on a WRX?
Not really...It seems like SUVs and trucks are "supposed" to be loud and pollute so they are not hassled nearly as much.
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnWRX
I've already read the VC that he charged me with. I just want to find the law or vehicle code where it says it's legal to have a catback exhaust system.

But the infractions he wrote me down for are

22450 Stop sign
That might be a little bit of a challenge to beat, but if he really was that far away you might actually have a chance in that it is difficult to discern movement from a couple of blocks.
But rolling "just a little" still fails to meet the word of the law which is along the lines of "full and complete stop"

Originally Posted by TurnWRX
27151 Modified exhaust
The judge should toss this one right out, 27151 says its illegal to modify it for more sound output, but if yours meets the SPL limits they have no case against you whatsoever.

subsection (b):

(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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fight it by mail.

as for the exhaust, if you have all your factory emissions equipment in place, don't sweat it. go to a test only smog station and ask if they do noise certification testing. if they do, and you pass, present the certificate at the courthouse and just pay the administrative fee to get it taken care of.
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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What type of exhaust do you have? Greddy usually comes with some type of certificate that shows it complies. You could provide that to the judge if you don't need to get a smog done.

I hate that area. I never go through there, as well as D.C. /Broadmoor if I could avoid it.
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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I was pulled over near the Hillside Blvd. I have an Hks Hi power exhaust. But like I said, he didn't give me a ticket for it because it was too loud, he gave it to me because "the piping is illegal" and that "it is illegal to change the stock exhaust."

What a bunch of baloney

But what would be better, swap out to stock exhaust, pay the $10 fix it ticket (or are there any other fees I don't know about?) or fight it? I'm guessing it would be easier to just swap to the stockers

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnWRX
lol what was funny was that I did stop, but kept rolling just a tad bit.

So, you didn't stop....
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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If you do have to get the smog, the ref will just signoff when it has passed. So that there is about $65 then admin cost for the court would be $10.

Stop sign ticket is about $210, but that was in SF for someone I know.
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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The "rolling stop" is called "Californian Stop" because CA people always do that
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
That might be a little bit of a challenge to beat, but if he really was that far away you might actually have a chance in that it is difficult to discern movement from a couple of blocks.
But rolling "just a little" still fails to meet the word of the law which is along the lines of "full and complete stop"



The judge should toss this one right out, 27151 says its illegal to modify it for more sound output, but if yours meets the SPL limits they have no case against you whatsoever.

subsection (b):

(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.
hey pete can you post a link to where you copied this from, i would like to print the whole thing out!
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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