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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Snowbound family burned tires to survive

Did anyone read the news about the missing CNET editor James Kim and his family? The mother and kids were found today, but the man is still missing.

The interesting note is that they were driving a 2005 Saab 92X according to the SF Chronicle. (Most newspapers incorrectly reported the car to be a 2005 Saab 900 - Saab 900s were gone by 1998!) Anyways, the family kept warm by running the car's heater until the gas ran out and then burned the tires.
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Originally Posted by pingu
Did anyone read the news about the missing CNET editor James Kim and his family? The mother and kids were found today, but the man is still missing.

The interesting note is that they were driving a 2005 Saab 92X according to the SF Chronicle. (Most newspapers incorrectly reported the car to be a 2005 Saab 900 - Saab 900s were gone by 1998!) Anyways, the family kept warm by running the car's heater until the gas ran out and then burned the tires.
yeah i read that news article. I hope they find that man.
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pingu
Did anyone read the news about the missing CNET editor James Kim and his family? The mother and kids were found today, but the man is still missing.

The interesting note is that they were driving a 2005 Saab 92X according to the SF Chronicle. (Most newspapers incorrectly reported the car to be a 2005 Saab 900 - Saab 900s were gone by 1998!) Anyways, the family kept warm by running the car's heater until the gas ran out and then burned the tires.
Well, if the stock RE92's failed to keep them on the road, I only think it's fitting that they could be found to be more useful by burning them.
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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man, that is pretty sad... I hope they find him as well...
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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wow. great survival. Sad for the guy. He must have set out to go find someone...get help. Hope for him is very slim. Sad.
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Just read it, man I hope that he's alive!
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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The articles so far are not clear on why the car wasn't able to turn around after they got onto a spur road.

Anyways..I hope he's found and this sad event reminds everyone going up to Tahoe to stock up the car with goodies to prepare for the worst.
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The articles so far are not clear on why the car wasn't able to turn around after they got onto a spur road.
I wonder why they traveled 2 more miles down that spur road in an effort to turn around - to the point where they were irreversably stuck - instead of turning and simply going back the way they came...

At any rate, there's some weather moving into the area in the next 48 hours, so if they don't find him soon this might turn into a recovery rather than a rescue effort.
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So someone finally out-Stolpa'd the Stolpas.

I guess it takes a news reminder every 15 years or so to remind people of 2- no 3 very fundamental lessons-

1) you need to be prepared for survival when traveling in the winter, that means suitable footware, extra clothing, food, water and sleeping bags and...

2) unless you are travelling with others, there is no such thing as a short cut in winter.

and 3) STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE, eventually rescue crews will find you there, but if you wander off without knowing where you are or where you'd be heading you are committing suicide.

Always better to arrive late than never...
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i think the news said that he left to get help on saturday and told his wife that he'll return by 1pm, but he never returned. that's not that good because if he was to set off looking for help and return by 1pm, he shouldn't be that far away from where they found the family. i hope he's ok, and just lost.

on another note, i thought the fumes from burning tires are toxic.
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So someone finally out-Stolpa'd the Stolpas.

I guess it takes a news reminder every 15 years or so to remind people of 2- no 3 very fundamental lessons-

1) you need to be prepared for survival when traveling in the winter, that means suitable footware, extra clothing, food, water and sleeping bags and...

2) unless you are travelling with others, there is no such thing as a short cut in winter.

and 3) STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE, eventually rescue crews will find you there, but if you wander off without knowing where you are or where you'd be heading you are committing suicide.

Always better to arrive late than never...
true that.

it's the same when lost in the wilderness...like at a ski resort...off trail. Get lost, injured. Just build yourself a shelter. Hunker down and survive the night. Rescue crews will be alerted.
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They found his pants today: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&feed=rss.news
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that news doesn't sound good.

There was some conflicting stories about how the family choose that route across the mountains.

1. They missed the exit for highway 42 to get from I-5 to the coast and decided to take another route instead of turning back.
2. some local chamber of commerce suggested that route or provided a map
3. followed mapquest / yahoo map directions

The road is marked "33" in yahoo and "NF-23" in google maps. Having travelled on forest roads, it's really easy to get lost even with a forest service map because often the road signs are lacking and hard to identify which is the correct turnout.
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that news doesn't sound good.
.... Having travelled on forest roads, it's really easy to get lost even with a forest service map because often the road signs are lacking and hard to identify which is the correct turnout.
And I can say from experience that Oregon Forest roads are far more confusing in that regard than anywhere else I've driven, one wrong turn and before you know it you are way lost....
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on another note, i thought the fumes from burning tires are toxic.
they are...

i was really confused as to that.

maybe they burned it close to the car for heat.

it's weird that i used to watch this guy when he was with then, ZDTV turned TECH TV...



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