SF Officer Opens Fire In Road Rage Incident
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SF Officer Opens Fire In Road Rage Incident
SF Officer Opens Fire In Road Rage Incident
MILL VALLEY (CBS 5) ―
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CHP officers interview an off-duty San Francisco police officer in Mill Valley following a shooting early Wednesday morning. A road rage incident on the the Golden Gate Bridge escalated into a shooting involving an off-duty San Francisco police officer early Wednesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.
A CHP spokeswoman said at approximately 12:45 a.m., the officer was traveling north on the bridge when there was a confrontation between his red sedan and a green, late-model Ford pickup truck, possibly an F-150.
Near the Waldo Tunnel, the passenger of the truck brandished a weapon at the officer, according to CHP Sgt. Diana McDermott. At that time, the officer fired at the Ford truck with his service revolver, said McDermott.
The Ford truck sped off, the officer pulled over at the Seminary exit off of 101 in Mill Valley and called 911, according to McDermott.
The suspects in the truck were described as two white males in their 20's. There may have been other occupants in the suspect vehicle, according to McDermott.
The officer was unhurt, and continued to his home after the incident.
CHP is asking anyone with information about the incident, or about a green late-model Ford truck, full-sized, to call the Marin office of the CHP at 415-924-1100.
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Ok anyone else do this and you would be in jail right now. No reason for a sworn peace officer to pull such a move. These guys are trained to deal with this stuff day in and day out. Thats like taking a gun call and just showing up and shooting instead of dealing with it. He could have hit the brakes and dialed 911. If he stopped and they shot at him well then its fair game. I think he was being a little over the top.
MILL VALLEY (CBS 5) ―
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CHP officers interview an off-duty San Francisco police officer in Mill Valley following a shooting early Wednesday morning. A road rage incident on the the Golden Gate Bridge escalated into a shooting involving an off-duty San Francisco police officer early Wednesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.
A CHP spokeswoman said at approximately 12:45 a.m., the officer was traveling north on the bridge when there was a confrontation between his red sedan and a green, late-model Ford pickup truck, possibly an F-150.
Near the Waldo Tunnel, the passenger of the truck brandished a weapon at the officer, according to CHP Sgt. Diana McDermott. At that time, the officer fired at the Ford truck with his service revolver, said McDermott.
The Ford truck sped off, the officer pulled over at the Seminary exit off of 101 in Mill Valley and called 911, according to McDermott.
The suspects in the truck were described as two white males in their 20's. There may have been other occupants in the suspect vehicle, according to McDermott.
The officer was unhurt, and continued to his home after the incident.
CHP is asking anyone with information about the incident, or about a green late-model Ford truck, full-sized, to call the Marin office of the CHP at 415-924-1100.
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Ok anyone else do this and you would be in jail right now. No reason for a sworn peace officer to pull such a move. These guys are trained to deal with this stuff day in and day out. Thats like taking a gun call and just showing up and shooting instead of dealing with it. He could have hit the brakes and dialed 911. If he stopped and they shot at him well then its fair game. I think he was being a little over the top.
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SF Officer Opens Fire In Road Rage Incident
MILL VALLEY (CBS 5) ?
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CHP officers interview an off-duty San Francisco police officer in Mill Valley following a shooting early Wednesday morning. A road rage incident on the the Golden Gate Bridge escalated into a shooting involving an off-duty San Francisco police officer early Wednesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.
A CHP spokeswoman said at approximately 12:45 a.m., the officer was traveling north on the bridge when there was a confrontation between his red sedan and a green, late-model Ford pickup truck, possibly an F-150.
Near the Waldo Tunnel, the passenger of the truck brandished a weapon at the officer, according to CHP Sgt. Diana McDermott. At that time, the officer fired at the Ford truck with his service revolver, said McDermott.
The Ford truck sped off, the officer pulled over at the Seminary exit off of 101 in Mill Valley and called 911, according to McDermott.
The suspects in the truck were described as two white males in their 20's. There may have been other occupants in the suspect vehicle, according to McDermott.
The officer was unhurt, and continued to his home after the incident.
CHP is asking anyone with information about the incident, or about a green late-model Ford truck, full-sized, to call the Marin office of the CHP at 415-924-1100.
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Ok anyone else do this and you would be in jail right now. No reason for a sworn peace officer to pull such a move. These guys are trained to deal with this stuff day in and day out. Thats like taking a gun call and just showing up and shooting instead of dealing with it. He could have hit the brakes and dialed 911. If he stopped and they shot at him well then its fair game. I think he was being a little over the top.
MILL VALLEY (CBS 5) ?
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CHP officers interview an off-duty San Francisco police officer in Mill Valley following a shooting early Wednesday morning. A road rage incident on the the Golden Gate Bridge escalated into a shooting involving an off-duty San Francisco police officer early Wednesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.
A CHP spokeswoman said at approximately 12:45 a.m., the officer was traveling north on the bridge when there was a confrontation between his red sedan and a green, late-model Ford pickup truck, possibly an F-150.
Near the Waldo Tunnel, the passenger of the truck brandished a weapon at the officer, according to CHP Sgt. Diana McDermott. At that time, the officer fired at the Ford truck with his service revolver, said McDermott.
The Ford truck sped off, the officer pulled over at the Seminary exit off of 101 in Mill Valley and called 911, according to McDermott.
The suspects in the truck were described as two white males in their 20's. There may have been other occupants in the suspect vehicle, according to McDermott.
The officer was unhurt, and continued to his home after the incident.
CHP is asking anyone with information about the incident, or about a green late-model Ford truck, full-sized, to call the Marin office of the CHP at 415-924-1100.
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Ok anyone else do this and you would be in jail right now. No reason for a sworn peace officer to pull such a move. These guys are trained to deal with this stuff day in and day out. Thats like taking a gun call and just showing up and shooting instead of dealing with it. He could have hit the brakes and dialed 911. If he stopped and they shot at him well then its fair game. I think he was being a little over the top.
that officer did what all of us should do...defended his life. its only a shame he wasn't a better shot so there would be one less ******* out there
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Sometimes its better to hit the brakes and get off the freeway. Then to get caught up in the problem your trained to stop.
What would have happen if that missed round hit a van carry people let alone some kids coming home from seeing santa...
He should get fired if not jailed..
"Oh, he flashed a weapon at me so I shot at them"
"Nope, didn't get the license plate of the truck"
"the passenger of the truck brandished a weapon at the officer"
but it doesn't say what type of weapon. the officer put other peoples lives at risk by firing at the vehicle.
the next sentence says the truck sped off and the officer pulled over to call 911, which is what he should have done instead of shooting.
I can't wait to hear more to the story as more information comes in.
but it doesn't say what type of weapon. the officer put other peoples lives at risk by firing at the vehicle.
the next sentence says the truck sped off and the officer pulled over to call 911, which is what he should have done instead of shooting.
I can't wait to hear more to the story as more information comes in.
Last edited by Rescuer; Dec 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM.
This news report states that the passenger pointed a handgun at the officer.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/18352997/detail.html
http://www.ktvu.com/news/18352997/detail.html
Off-Duty Officer Opens Fire In Marin Road Rage Incident
Wednesday, December 24, 2008
SAUSALITO -- An off-duty San Francisco police officer reported firing a gun at another motorist in self-defense during a highway confrontation in Marin County early Wednesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.
The incident happened around 12:45 a.m. today on northbound U.S. Highway 101 south of the Waldo Tunnel.
The CHP reported that a passenger in a green Ford pickup truck pointed a handgun in the San Francisco officer's direction, at which point the officer fired his service weapon.
It is unclear whether the Ford or its occupants were struck by the gunfire, CHP Sgt. Diana McDermott said.
The officer, who was not in a police vehicle at the time, and called the CHP immediately afterward, she said. The CHP searched the area but did not locate the Ford pickup.
McDermott said the CHP was still investigating how the confrontation unfolded.
"From what I understand it was a road-rage type of deal that started on the Golden Gate Bridge and proceeded northbound toward the Waldo Tunnel," McDermott said.
Wednesday, December 24, 2008
SAUSALITO -- An off-duty San Francisco police officer reported firing a gun at another motorist in self-defense during a highway confrontation in Marin County early Wednesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.
The incident happened around 12:45 a.m. today on northbound U.S. Highway 101 south of the Waldo Tunnel.
The CHP reported that a passenger in a green Ford pickup truck pointed a handgun in the San Francisco officer's direction, at which point the officer fired his service weapon.
It is unclear whether the Ford or its occupants were struck by the gunfire, CHP Sgt. Diana McDermott said.
The officer, who was not in a police vehicle at the time, and called the CHP immediately afterward, she said. The CHP searched the area but did not locate the Ford pickup.
McDermott said the CHP was still investigating how the confrontation unfolded.
"From what I understand it was a road-rage type of deal that started on the Golden Gate Bridge and proceeded northbound toward the Waldo Tunnel," McDermott said.
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Look,
Most of you can armchair quarterback all you want. However tell you have had to draw, brandish, and fire a weapon at someone, thats really all you can do.
I have, I know what its like to look down a hallway in my home and be forced to defend my life. In my case I missed and the intruder ran out (right into a cop car in the alleyway and a K9 unit behind him). However, I was quite prepared to take the persons life had they stuck around and I had to fire again. (hehe in my defense, I did blow a hole the size of your fist into the wall 3" from his head with my shot...glazer safety slug, .357. Cops comment to me 'to bad you missed, would have been less paperwork for us')
When a weapon comes into play, you don't pull out a phone, you don't ignore them and hope they leave. You do what you must to defend your life and the lives of the people around you. As a CCW holder (
in almost every state but this one, ****ing CA ) I am going to say, if that officers story is true, the only thing he did wrong was not give chase to the truck.
Now if it turns out he is a lier, and he discharged his weapon when his life was not in danger (IE. passenger brandishing a gun) then he should loose his job and face jail time.
Most of you can armchair quarterback all you want. However tell you have had to draw, brandish, and fire a weapon at someone, thats really all you can do.
I have, I know what its like to look down a hallway in my home and be forced to defend my life. In my case I missed and the intruder ran out (right into a cop car in the alleyway and a K9 unit behind him). However, I was quite prepared to take the persons life had they stuck around and I had to fire again. (hehe in my defense, I did blow a hole the size of your fist into the wall 3" from his head with my shot...glazer safety slug, .357. Cops comment to me 'to bad you missed, would have been less paperwork for us')
When a weapon comes into play, you don't pull out a phone, you don't ignore them and hope they leave. You do what you must to defend your life and the lives of the people around you. As a CCW holder (
in almost every state but this one, ****ing CA ) I am going to say, if that officers story is true, the only thing he did wrong was not give chase to the truck.Now if it turns out he is a lier, and he discharged his weapon when his life was not in danger (IE. passenger brandishing a gun) then he should loose his job and face jail time.
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Was a example, not a brag. The fact is few here are going to understand what it means to carry a gun every day, or what its like to have to use one in defense. That little fact, makes it hard for folks to understand what its like, what the responsibility feels like.
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Yeah yeah boss I remeber now.. Yeah he did in fact point it at me.. lol
Fire his ***... I used to work for a SO. Yes I have had to draw down on someone. Your life changes the second you pull that trigger. You will get sued from everyone related to the guy you shot. You'll have some jail time while they investgate. Discharging a fire arm in the public? Over someone showing a gun? Thats just plain retarded.... He's also trained to remeber lic plates, That should have been no problem for him. I see far to many loop holes missed for a seasoned police officer.
This guy had no regard for life, His missed round could have killed a someone in a backdrop. This type of person does not need to be protecting citzens. I would love to see what is on job work history file is like. I bet this is not his 1st time. What happen to all the training he had?
Fire his ***... I used to work for a SO. Yes I have had to draw down on someone. Your life changes the second you pull that trigger. You will get sued from everyone related to the guy you shot. You'll have some jail time while they investgate. Discharging a fire arm in the public? Over someone showing a gun? Thats just plain retarded.... He's also trained to remeber lic plates, That should have been no problem for him. I see far to many loop holes missed for a seasoned police officer.
This guy had no regard for life, His missed round could have killed a someone in a backdrop. This type of person does not need to be protecting citzens. I would love to see what is on job work history file is like. I bet this is not his 1st time. What happen to all the training he had?
@overbear, it's always interesting to see how "gun crew" people react to things like this 
however, firing at a moving vehicle while there are other vehicles around puts others lives at risk. and , if the truck driver lost control, crashed, killing the driver and other occupants, then it put them at risk too considering it was only the passenger who was commiting a crime.
he could have slowed down to avoid being fired at (assuming that it was a handgun being brandished which is still not confirmed), and quickly called it in.
when CHP or LEO's are chasing vehicles, they don't start shooting at them like in the movies
I've done EVOC many times (emergency vehicle operating course) and must have missed the class that teaches how to fire weapons out of the window while driving
however, firing at a moving vehicle while there are other vehicles around puts others lives at risk. and , if the truck driver lost control, crashed, killing the driver and other occupants, then it put them at risk too considering it was only the passenger who was commiting a crime.
he could have slowed down to avoid being fired at (assuming that it was a handgun being brandished which is still not confirmed), and quickly called it in.
when CHP or LEO's are chasing vehicles, they don't start shooting at them like in the movies
I've done EVOC many times (emergency vehicle operating course) and must have missed the class that teaches how to fire weapons out of the window while driving
Last edited by Rescuer; Dec 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM.