Redwood city next for E85 station!!

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Old May 17, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Not going to get into this arguement as I have no skin in the game, but to think Ethanol doesn't affect food prices is somewhat delusional. Read this



Because if its more expensive to feed a pig, its going to cost more to raise a pig. The economics of why ethanol doesn't make good sense at this time, in America, are real, solid, and proven.

You are totally delusional. GO do yourself a favor and download KING OF CORN.

The stuff used for ethanol is not even close to being an edible and digestible corn. The fact is percentage of corn grown to eat is very small. Point being it's not the same product as what we eat.

The point of the documentary is that everything as a result is corn derived, and corn feed. Steak you buy at safeway comes from Cows that would die in 6 more months if they kept ingesting the corn byproducts and scraps and crap quality corn they are feed. It's fairly disturbing. Be better off using fuel from it. Besides all the factual information the overall feeling of the farmers is pretty bad as well.
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
You are totally delusional. GO do yourself a favor and download KING OF CORN.

The stuff used for ethanol is not even close to being an edible and digestible corn. The fact is percentage of corn grown to eat is very small. Point being it's not the same product as what we eat.

The point of the documentary is that everything as a result is corn derived, and corn feed. Steak you buy at safeway comes from Cows that would die in 6 more months if they kept ingesting the corn byproducts and scraps and crap quality corn they are feed. It's fairly disturbing. Be better off using fuel from it. Besides all the factual information the overall feeling of the farmers is pretty bad as well.
nice find!! price was $3.35 today!
Old May 28, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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woot for genetically modifying foods lol
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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went to $3.35 today so thats not that bad!
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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went to $3.35 today so thats not that bad!
Still no B20
I thought you got an email saying that they were bringing In B20, this was awhile ago too.
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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^ they did...must be some silly reason it't not at the station yet
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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The San Jose ones have B20
Old Mar 8, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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just filled up with e85 in redwood city at $3.80 go back down! haha
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Is E85 less expensive to run than 91 gas now? 91 oct gas is 4.50 plus and going up.
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Is E85 less expensive to run than 91 gas now? 91 oct gas is 4.50 plus and going up.
you also get 30% less mpg so all in all its about the same thing
Old Mar 8, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Is E85 less expensive to run than 91 gas now? 91 oct gas is 4.50 plus and going up.
Not really. The way I understand it, it take ~20-30% more E85 to go the same distance as gas. At $3.80, e85 is only about 15-16% cheaper than gas. So the lines don't cross. You'd need e85 to sell at $3.30 to just break even. Did I get that right?
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^ yes you are about spot on with that statment
Old Mar 8, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dartholomew
Not really. The way I understand it, it take ~20-30% more E85 to go the same distance as gas. At $3.80, e85 is only about 15-16% cheaper than gas. So the lines don't cross. You'd need e85 to sell at $3.30 to just break even. Did I get that right?
Plus don't you need a tune and injectors. So that initial cost needs to be factored in as well.
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^ ya but you also make 100 plus whp lol so thats also a fun factor!
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^ ya but you also make 100 plus whp lol so thats also a fun factor!
Speaking of which, what were your numbers after finally making the switch?



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