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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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quota system... O_O

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ket-quota.html

wtf... there is such a thing? gahh... i gotta stop being so trusting with the people that enforce laws...
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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i thought everybody new about "quotas" btw theres alot of crooked cops running the streets
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Wait, quotas are illegal?
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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quotas are illegal but most cops will never admit they have them
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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there is no quota (now in '11, that is)... i personally know a few officers, in different parts of California and w/ diff departments.

some officers main focus (given to them by mgt) is to enforce mainly traffic laws/violations though... but aren't given a specific # to hit.

but, an officer who never writes any tickets kinda looks like they aren't doing their job... and an officer who pours in tons of tickets, sorta looks like they've got something to prove. They usually just find the happy medium. and, yes, they do get a lot of revenue from tickets.

but this was back in '09. this def happened and def still happens, but they now don't give them a specific #, like 18.

ultimately, crappy as it sounds, an officer's job is basically to catch people breaking the law and not necessarily to "protect the public." they're almost protecting the public from ourselves...

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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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"In addition to the quota, officers were told the tickets they gave out had to be for "major movers" such as speeding, lane straddling or running a red light -- offenses that could each generate revenue of several hundred dollars each."

What is "lane straddling"?
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flukewrx
What is "lane straddling"?
it's kinda how it sounds... touching the lane lines with your tires... sorta like swerving in your own lane, you can be cited for it, but it's prob super rare, i haven't heard of anyone getting dinged for this. driving like you're getting a bj or something.

California Vehicle Code § 21658(a) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practical entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.

if ever pulled over for this, say you were trying to avoid the various potholes and crap on our sh*tty California roads. that'd prob work.

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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Not sure I'm following this....


These two officers claimed they were forced to write tickets as part of their job expectations (a certain number and type of tickets). So these tickets cost the tax payers person money and tax money (court operation costs). Then these officers sue the police department and win, therefore costing the tax payers another $2million.

Sorry that **** doesn't make any sense to me.



Quota systems a no go. But everyone knows there are "implied" quotas in many departments and many sections of many departments.

My brother in law almost never writes tickets. I mean you have to do something really stupid right in front of him to get a ticket. But he's on a task force and works in a high crime department and has better things to do than worry about busting some guy going 4mph over the speed limit with modified exhaust.

In a lower crime department working a lower crime beat you're going to be expected to write more tickets. And they always have hot button tickets that they tell you to look extra careful at.

You think the CHP spends more time looking for people going 71mph or people in the carpool lane?
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Not sure I'm following this....

These two officers claimed they were forced to write tickets as part of their job expectations (a certain number and type of tickets). So these tickets cost the tax payers person money and tax money (court operation costs). Then these officers sue the police department and win, therefore costing the tax payers another $2million.
yep, you got it... these specific cops were pissed though, cause their reputation was tarnished, basically hurting their careers... that's why they sued, and cause they had "legal advice" telling them to do so also, cause they get cuts of the cash... ahh, how the world goes round. we have more lawyers than anyone and sue anyone for anything... nobody cares about taxpayers, we all should know that by now.
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalPaintball
yep, you got it... these specific cops were pissed though, cause their reputation was tarnished, basically hurting their careers... that's why they sued, and cause they had "legal advice" telling them to do so also, cause they get cuts of the cash... ahh, how the world goes round. we have more lawyers than anyone and sue anyone for anything... nobody cares about taxpayers, we all should know that by now.
Yeah that sucks.

But here's the breakdown that I see for these officers...

$1 million each.

Minus the lawyer feels... hell if I know. Call it $100k to the lawyers. I think they loose nearly half to the government. Call it $410k.

So that's about $510k. So they walk with $490k each.

Figure they're making about $76k a year each. That's not even 7 years wages.

So they just TOASTED their careers for 7 years wages. That's the bummer position they are put in.

And I'd be willing to bet they walk with even less. So call it 5 years wages.

This was a win win for the lawyers... of course they're gonna recommend following through on it.

People get more for burning their ***** with mcd's coffee.
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Yeah that sucks.

But here's the breakdown that I see for these officers...

$1 million each.

Minus the lawyer feels... hell if I know. Call it $100k to the lawyers. I think they loose nearly half to the government. Call it $410k.

So that's about $510k. So they walk with $490k each.

Figure they're making about $76k a year each. That's not even 7 years wages.

So they just TOASTED their careers for 7 years wages. That's the bummer position they are put in.

And I'd be willing to bet they walk with even less. So call it 5 years wages.

This was a win win for the lawyers... of course they're gonna recommend following through on it.

People get more for burning their ***** with mcd's coffee.
yea, it's def sad...

the lawyers were prob paid by % of what the end award was. money is the root of all evil, i strongly believe in that. C.R.E.A.M.

and yes, everyone, and i do mean everyone, has their own agenda. and that's with everything in life.

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