Yeah, the NV test also checks for ready state, but if any sensors are turned off it ignores them. Cobb Stage 2 does this and passes smog just fine.

CA may have different laws when/if this gets enacted. I don't know if they can stipulate exactly what sensors have to be active, but its a possibility.

 

Maybe the state is finally so far in debt they see almost all of this CARB/ref crap actually costs the state money.

This makes sense, so of course it will never actually come to fruition in CA.

 

oooo.. I think that could be good.

but would they pull data from your ECU showing that the cels are turned off at all?

 

^^that's exactly what I was wondering

 

As far as I'm concerned, I can only see the smog rules getting more stringent (right now at least). Since they already check for simple CEL codes, I have to believe that any change in the smogging process would make it more difficult, so they must add some sort of check to compensate for the loss of emissions numbers to go by.

 

Go ahead and grab your ankles buddy

I'm sure there's additional BS that will go along with the test. Some how I don't see CA's smog tests being that easy where you can have CELs and stuff covered up all sneaky like with an AP. It may be possible and I hope it will be for your guy's sake and mine if I ever gotta return to the state.

 

You guys have to stop thinking like sneaky Subaru owners. Most emissions problems are not modified cars, they're negligence and broken parts with active CEL's and ECU's freaking out, etc. This is an attempt to cut costs and make smogging the 99% easier.

Most vehicles that are modded don't have things like AP's that can reset trigger parameters or disable registers - we're not even on their radar for changes like this, which is a good thing.

They're looking to make it simple, like NV - and the NV process is awesome. Car isn't bellowing smoke? ECU says it's running ok? All the thousands of dollars in sensors and smog equipment must be working correctly, have a nice day.

 

If it ends up being something like that... = win

 

That would be Fantastic if that really is the case. Especially since you really can Pass Smog Tests with running a modified car (depending on how heavily modified your car is).

"The proposed changes came about after a state audit released Tuesday showed major flaws in the smog check program.

According to the study, the California Highway Patrol pulled over more than 6,000 older vehicles in Southern California, and they were given roadside tailpipe tests between 2003 and 2006. In all, 19 percent of the pre-1996 vehicles were found to be pumping out more smog than state law allows despite having passed smog checks within one year."

"Under current state law, passenger cars and trucks must be inspected every two years and pass state emissions tests, except when they are six years old or newer. Vehicles older than 1975 also are exempt from smog tests."

I wonder if there will be a change to the 1975 and Older Exemption Rule?

 

once AP type devices hit their radar then you can say adios because that will become a off-road only and not legal for use in california...

 

I'm sure a visual inspection is also still in effect. So even if you have all your cels in check you still need to have a stock motor.

 

It already is.
ANY modification to the emissions system that does not have a specific CARB registration number is considered illegal and for offroad use only.

This applies to any dyno tuning, programming, or sensor modification as well as parts swapping. No gray area in this law.

Our only savior is that right now they don't bother really checking.

 

I have a stand alone


im screwed lol

 

and stock DP

 

If you have a smog hook up, this makes it easier than ever before.

APs tend to cancel or block certain CELs, like P0420. They, I believe, still allow most other codes. This should work for most people, who aren't producing CELs AND their readiness monitors are working.