most people i know that use these are specifically for Slamming your car so it just depends on what you are going to use it for... for that price though, thats a bit expensive.. i picked up a set of Stance GR + pro for 600 with only 1K on them... so i would wait to find a better deal if your on a budget

 

Eibach (with their self-branded stuff anyways) offers no competitive springs. Both their Prokit and Sportlines are poor choices for spring rates and the Sportlines dump the car too low. Eibach also has a history of defective batches of springs, but there hasn't been one as of late to my knowledge.

I absolutely agree that you get what you pay for, my mod list is proof of that, though that doesn't always mean that the expensive stuff is very good either. Take your Cuscos, they are NOT the same parts as the BCs, but they are not designed properly either due to lack of R&D. Just like the cheaper coilover option they are over-sprung and under-damped, which is bad for performance, ride quality, and damper life. They also dont' offer the level of travel that better choices in the same price range (or even cheaper) do. These are both problems with budget coilovers as well as the Cuscos and HKSs. In the case of JIC Magics, you're just lucky if your coilovers don't fall apart. These brands charge a premium because of the brand image attached to them, not because of the results the provide. Compare them to KWs, ASTs, RCEs, and even Ohlins in the same price range and your mind will be blown.

 

Good info. I'm relatively new to the suspension game and even newer to driving on a track. I will say that I couldnt be happier with my Cuscos so far. When the time comes I'll definitely be looking into the manufactures you mentioned, perhaps I'll ask around at the track to see what other guys are running and then ask for a ride

Well it sounds like you know your ****, give the OP a recommendation!!

 

^lol, yes please do.

Im iffy about the strut and spring combo cause its all pre-dampened and the fact that i can't control that is kind of pushing me away.

i have been reading up on stance supersports and their around the same price as the KW variant 1, and i've read that they are pretty comfortable also

so are ISC N1s and fortune auto 500 series

 

Stance, ISC, Fortune Auto. All exactly the same as BCs. The only positive reviews you will ever find on any of these are from people who aren't qualified to give you an opinion because they know nothing about suspension and are only concerned with being able to slam their car on a budget. The people who can actually give an educated review either know not to buy them or get BCs with custom rates and are in for the warranty since they know they will blow anyways.

Again, there are no magic budget coilovers. My mindset is that coilovers are not for DDs since you can get more performance than you will be able to take advantage of on public roads out of struts and springs without sacrificing ride comfort or reliability. If you race frequently and on a competitive basis, then you can start talking about coilovers.

From your priority list: GTWorx/Bilstein struts or Koni inserts and RCE Blacks.

 

hop on Nasioc.com and check out their threads for reviews on specific coilovers. you'll find personal reviews on them. Honestly, if your not looking to track, race, or be competitive there's probably no reason for you to buy expensive coilovers. its like why buy olins if your just going to dd your car.

IMO ...should anything be affordable, drop height and handle decently.. definitely those RCE springs (yellows or blacks) and Koni inserts.. eventually you can upgrade to RCE camber plates too if you like.

 

Just curious, have you ever owned a set of bc type coilovers?

I got mine because I like height adjustability and dampening adjustability because I run 3 different wheel/tire sizes. For a DD why spend more $ on ballin coilovers when bc ride quality on softer settings are really not that bad unless you are ultra sensitive...I've got baad back issues and it never bugs me

And fyi my car has at least a finger or two gap all around, I'm not only concered with dumping my car..

Combined with alk, sti control arms, sway/endlink and a good alignment my car outhandled a porsche carrera on 17n with no engine mods besides stg1 and a catback..and that was on 205/55/16 falken 452 on stock wheels...sounds like my car has ****ty handling

Haa I'm not "qualified to have an opinion"

To the OP...you can ask questions all you want, but the only way to know if you'll like the way a suspension setup feels is try it out...if you don't like it, its pretty common to trade complete setups in the classifieds

I like my BC setup better than the sti spec-c setup I had, but I'm not entitled to an opinion because brfatal said so

 

I will agree that I wish the BC coilover did have more suspension travel but it only gets me on really tight turns like sharp 90degree angle, the inside rear wheel will sometimes skip but I don't like to mash around turns like that anyways, I do mostly freeway driving

 

For a DD in general coilovers are not a good idea. I already addressed this.

Congrats on out handling a Carrera on an interstate highway with long straight aways and broad turns though (my brother went to UofA). Maybe next time you can outhandle a tourist bus on the Vegas strip.

 

Regardless of what people say I have BC BR coilovers on my 2011. For 900 out the door you cant beat it. I dont have 1500+ to spend on coilovers that are "better" nor will I be tracking my car anytime soon where I need such performance coilovers. However I would not pay more than 600 for used BCs since they are 900-950 new depending on who you buy them from.

 

Out handling a carrera? a tourist bus? Haha...

 

Exactly my sort of mind set, that's why I was looking at Bc, stance, or fortune 500. Which ones of these would be the best bang for their buck. I know I'm not gonna get great ones but out of those which ones are "best" but like you guys said their all the same. So did I just answer my own question?

 

Cuscos don't feel good on US roads because its tarmac spec in Japan which has ZERO road issues not only that, tuned for track driving, I've never heard of a comfortable track oriented car compared to a DD. And I will greatly disagree on your opinion about JIC Magics. I just happened to be driving a car tonight with them, rides 100x nicer than my swifts and konis, definitely better range of adjustment for track days and, lowering them did not affect the suspension feel whatsoever for daily driving.

 

^I must disagree with you regarding JIC Magic suspension. Their coilovers flat out suck. Very inconsistent spring rates, weak strut construction and overall crappy QC. Most of JIC's parts are made in China.

Here's just one example: I Broke My JIC Not So Magic Strut - NASIOC

 

I have Zeal Function X's on my car and the handling is great. Spring rates make them very streetable at the same time.